Start a new world where there is no baseline prestige advantage and all teams/conferences begin at the same level.

Also do away with conference strength, only as pertains to recruiting preference.

that way everyone starts at the same level and whether New Mexico State or one of the blue bloods is the #1 program depends solely on how the program has been run.

In this scenario I would also like to see early entrants identified prior to the start of recruiting period 1, at least for 5-10 seasons.

If I were in charge I would have participants sign up and based on seniority they get to pick their school until all spots are filled (or there are no more takers).

I've always been down for a new world. Unfortunately, a new world that has different rules/mechanics than all the other worlds is likely a non starter for devs

I've always wished baselines were removed and world prestige was completely dynamic.

Why sign up based on seniority? You're just maintaining the status quo, all the big names will have a leg up moving up the ladder and end up taking the prime D1 spots per usual

Agreed, the best part of starting a new world so there is no seniority. All the old bums like me (although I do try to not do this too much) are sitting on all the good jobs.

Let us embark on a true race to top with an even playing field!

The key thing here is a starting a new world in the first place. Announce it soon, name it after Coach K and have it open during the next college basketball season! The new devs have a great way to grow excitement for the game with little to no work, and it’s good for the long term health of the game.

Posted by cubcub113 on 6/30/2022 12:24:00 AM (view original):
Agreed, the best part of starting a new world so there is no seniority. All the old bums like me (although I do try to not do this too much) are sitting on all the good jobs.

Let us embark on a true race to top with an even playing field!

The key thing here is a starting a new world in the first place. Announce it soon, name it after Coach K and have it open during the next college basketball season! The new devs have a great way to grow excitement for the game with little to no work, and it’s good for the long term health of the game.

Name it after:
John Thompson, not Coack K... because among the 10 coaches, we have:
- No Big East coaches.
- No African-American coaches.
- No one representing the northeast other than a Div-2 coach from out in western Maryland.
- JT had a huge impact on the game.
- JT is a Providence College alum.

For those thinking another Big East coach is more deserving... such as Massimino, Louie, Calhoun, Boeheim, Jay Wright... it was Thompson that really led the Big East in our beginnings, and got our first National Championship.

Posted by npb7768 on 6/30/2022 2:55:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cubcub113 on 6/30/2022 12:24:00 AM (view original):
Agreed, the best part of starting a new world so there is no seniority. All the old bums like me (although I do try to not do this too much) are sitting on all the good jobs.

Let us embark on a true race to top with an even playing field!

The key thing here is a starting a new world in the first place. Announce it soon, name it after Coach K and have it open during the next college basketball season! The new devs have a great way to grow excitement for the game with little to no work, and it’s good for the long term health of the game.

Name it after:
John Thompson, not Coack K... because among the 10 coaches, we have:
- No Big East coaches.
- No African-American coaches.
- No one representing the northeast other than a Div-2 coach from out in western Maryland.
- JT had a huge impact on the game.
- JT is a Providence College alum.

For those thinking another Big East coach is more deserving... such as Massimino, Louie, Calhoun, Boeheim, Jay Wright... it was Thompson that really led the Big East in our beginnings, and got our first National Championship.

As a Cuse fan I grew up despising Georgetown.

But you're right, he had a huge impact on the BE and college bball. RIP

Sure, I'm good with John Thompson, you make a great case.

Thanks guys

John Thompson, yes
new world, nah.
New world with different rules, absolutely nah.

I feel like there's been a lot of movement at the top, as far as the elite jobs. They've opened up a lot lately. I've got 3 A+ jobs, passed on others, and I'm not knocking down the doors of D1 greatness by any means. Obviously there's other jobs than just the A+ jobs that are coveted. But I think it would just be a cheap thrill. By 2023 the new world would be just like the rest and we'd be asking for another new world again.

I'm not against it. I just don't see it being a massive help for the game. Just "cool for a minute"

Posted by topdogggbm on 6/30/2022 3:53:00 PM (view original):
John Thompson, yes
new world, nah.
New world with different rules, absolutely nah.

I feel like there's been a lot of movement at the top, as far as the elite jobs. They've opened up a lot lately. I've got 3 A+ jobs, passed on others, and I'm not knocking down the doors of D1 greatness by any means. Obviously there's other jobs than just the A+ jobs that are coveted. But I think it would just be a cheap thrill. By 2023 the new world would be just like the rest and we'd be asking for another new world again.

I'm not against it. I just don't see it being a massive help for the game. Just "cool for a minute"

I guess my point is that the blue blood programs might not get to A or A+ status unless they were well run. And every single school would have the same chance to succeed. I'm relatively new here but I don't understand a "game" where people compete but certain people/programs have an inherent advantage with the baseline prestige. Seems unnecessary. Maybe the baseline prestige is not that much of a factor and I'm over thinking this.

Posted by nobagel69 on 6/30/2022 6:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by topdogggbm on 6/30/2022 3:53:00 PM (view original):
John Thompson, yes
new world, nah.
New world with different rules, absolutely nah.

I feel like there's been a lot of movement at the top, as far as the elite jobs. They've opened up a lot lately. I've got 3 A+ jobs, passed on others, and I'm not knocking down the doors of D1 greatness by any means. Obviously there's other jobs than just the A+ jobs that are coveted. But I think it would just be a cheap thrill. By 2023 the new world would be just like the rest and we'd be asking for another new world again.

I'm not against it. I just don't see it being a massive help for the game. Just "cool for a minute"

I guess my point is that the blue blood programs might not get to A or A+ status unless they were well run. And every single school would have the same chance to succeed. I'm relatively new here but I don't understand a "game" where people compete but certain people/programs have an inherent advantage with the baseline prestige. Seems unnecessary. Maybe the baseline prestige is not that much of a factor and I'm over thinking this.

For a game that's not real, people want to see the teams that are high prestige in real life remain high prestige in this game. It's dumb. If the team is run poorly, its prestige should be poor and vice versa. I want to see some scrub schools with A+ prestige. while a Duke or UNC is a C+ because it's had a string of bad coaches.

It's one of the reasons I prefer DII/DIII, but they've geared the entire game towards DI now.

The game is definitely geared towards D1, which I don't necessarily love. But without having this same old discussion, it's all about the longevity of the game.

The amount of people that are cheering for a new world at least makes it a viable discussion. No matter my opinion. I just think people underestimate what having a free for all (as far as baseline prestige) would do to the game over the course of real life years.

If a new world was ran with no baseline, I don't think it would hurt the game at all. But there would be confusion (new coaches having to grasp different rules for different worlds). And I'm sure some difficulty at headquarters.

Posted by topdogggbm on 7/1/2022 8:31:00 AM (view original):
The game is definitely geared towards D1, which I don't necessarily love. But without having this same old discussion, it's all about the longevity of the game.

The amount of people that are cheering for a new world at least makes it a viable discussion. No matter my opinion. I just think people underestimate what having a free for all (as far as baseline prestige) would do to the game over the course of real life years.

If a new world was ran with no baseline, I don't think it would hurt the game at all. But there would be confusion (new coaches having to grasp different rules for different worlds). And I'm sure some difficulty at headquarters.

Agree with difficulties with different rules for different worlds - ESPECIALLY something that isn't that well understood by the masses already like baseline prestige.

I'm fine with baseline prestige at d1. They negated a ton of advantages of the elite programs already and it's legitimately possible for any team in d1 to win a title - we see it all the time.

I think the divisions should play a little differently and that's the appeal. D1 has the baseline prestige and EEs. D2/D3 have your 'standard' or simplified version of HD and I think that's totally fine. In fact, I wish d3 was less similar to d2 like it used to be.

agreed. no need to nerf baseline anymore. last season in tark, two D baseline teams played for the title, and a third took one of the final four spots. certainly that isn't happening every season, and D baseline is definitely a weight around the old ankles. but still, the parity in today's game is great, while still sort of kind of resembling real life with the big teams generally at least good.