Props to Italy for finally electing a woman to lead their country. I might not be the most progressive person in the world, but I truly think this is something worth celebrating! Viva Italia! And here's to hoping she doesn't fall under the sway of Macron and Trudeau's internationalist toxic masculinity!

Woohoo, great progress has been made! *heart emoji*

I'm officially a misogynist

Really regretting when I called people sexist for not always voting for women 100% of the time, smh

The CNN interview with her political opponent was hilarious. CNN spending most of the previous 2 days sounding the alarm about the newly elected Prime Minister and how she's basically Mussolini in a dress...LOL.

They're a joke even internationally.

https://mobile.twitter.com/joelwgibbonsv/status/1574788485420048386

AN was the heir to the Italian Social Movement (MSI, 1945–1995),[15][16] a neo-fascist party founded by former members of the banned National Fascist Party (1921–1943) and the Republican Fascist Party (1943–1945).[17][18][19]

Her party is LITERALLY the heir to fascist parties in Italy.

Several party members have celebrated Mussolini, with fascist and Nazi memorabilia in their regional headquarters.^{[148][149][150]} Some members of the Mussolini family have run for FdI, such as Rachele Mussolini, granddaughter of Mussolini, for the City Council of Rome, and Caio Giulio Cesare Mussolini, great-grandson of Mussolini, for the 2019 European Parliament election.^[151]

^{I don't know how much it's gonna take for yall to just admit that you like fascism. Just be open about it! Conservatives in America today actually support most of Mussolini's policies.}

Gee, I wonder what Renzi's motivation could be for downplaying such an obvious threat to his own country's democracy.

Well, I'm sure he just probably doesn't understand Italian politics as well as the folks on this board do

Liberals have famously never understated the risk that fascists pose to democracy

How's Brazil's democracy doing?

The problem with Tang's logic is endemic to the entire progressive wing of the left. They change and dilute the definition of words like "fascist" until we reach the laughable state we are in today: where somebody who says there are only 2 genders gets labeled a fascist by the woke left.

Bet a resounding number of American WW2 vets (if still alive) would support Italy's fantastic new leader...if presented with a far left progressive alternative.

Viva Italia!

Again, her party is quite literally the descendent of the Italian fascist party and many party leaders have praised Mussolini.

I didn't say anything about her views on trans people

Ok, but you understand that being the descendent of the Italian fascist party isn't the same thing as being the Italian fascist party, right?

I mean, the American Democratic party was the party of Jim Crow more recently than Italy had a viable fascist party.

Mainstream members of the American Democratic Party aren't openly defending Jim Crow, and voters and voting blocs for the Democratic Party in the 1960s aren't still voting for them today, for the most part. You know that isn't a fair comparison, dahs. You would have to point to an obvious shift in the Italian party system. Also, Italy doesn't have a two-party system, so their party shifts are going to be different than ours.

Look, all I'm saying is that it's not crazy to argue that the far-right leader of the "descendent of fascist party that still has members openly talk about how they like Mussolini and has Mussolini's grandkids running for office" might, maybe be a lil' fascist. Shouldn't even be that controversial.

We can also walk through the 14 points or whatever your chosen definition of fascism is.

I guess I just don't get it. If you like fascism, and many in America genuinely do, just embrace it. I don't see what the issue is with calling a spade a spade.

What part of the definition of fascist has been diluted? What would she have to do to meet your criteria (that Mussolini *didn't* do before rising to power)?

Excellent query Tang!

Ok, I don't really have a dog in this fight, and I'm not going to spend a lot of time on it. But there is a BLATANTLY obvious answer to your question, especially since you appear to have accidentally phrased it incorrectly.

She was elected. Mussolini didn't do that before rising to power.

Good answer. LOL.