yerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr a dumbass

his opinion hurt some people who real life lost some real live kids

i know and you know kids are over-rated

but that sorry sack

a jury of his peers said

Shut it loudmouf now you gotta pay

Something WEIRD IS going on................... a whole LOT of Americans have completely lost their minds!
They just can't discern fantasy/conspiracy from reality!!
So Sad!!

Some-Thing Weird

Goin' On

Don't be a coward. Say what you actually believe. Not this BS "something is fishy here" nonsense.

btw lol at the idea that the Alex Jones thing "didn't hurt anyone." Parents were harassed for years.

Posted by laramiebob on 10/14/2022 8:47:00 AM (view original):
Something WEIRD IS going on................... a whole LOT of Americans have completely lost their minds!
They just can't discern fantasy/conspiracy from reality!!
So Sad!!

Cool story bro, but what about Rachel Maddow's dangerous misinformation?

Posted by tangplay on 10/14/2022 3:11:00 PM (view original):
Don't be a coward. Say what you actually believe. Not this BS "something is fishy here" nonsense.

btw lol at the idea that the Alex Jones thing "didn't hurt anyone." Parents were harassed for years.

I actually have no strong belief re Sandy Hook other than that video is WEIRD. Honest to gosh.

Posted by Guitarguy567 on 10/14/2022 3:36:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 10/14/2022 3:11:00 PM (view original):
Don't be a coward. Say what you actually believe. Not this BS "something is fishy here" nonsense.

btw lol at the idea that the Alex Jones thing "didn't hurt anyone." Parents were harassed for years.

I actually have no strong belief re Sandy Hook other than that video is WEIRD. Honest to gosh.

The fact that you have "no strong belief" regarding Sandy Hook says a lot, but yeah, I get that you think it's WEIRD. What are you implying?

So let's forget the Alex Jones comparison.

Any Rachel fans out there wanna jump in and defend her cause it was for the greater good or whatever BS the narrative says?

Obviously if she was going out there day after day saying that there is zero risk of transmission if you get the vaccine, it's bad. I'm not defending that. I'm not familiar with that exact clip but I would bet money that if I watched through examples of Maddow talking about the vaccine I would not come away believing that there is zero risk of transmission if you get the vaccine.

You can find examples of misleading language or people misspeaking, but the argument that vaccine people were saying you can't ever get covid is a classic strawman. We were saying, especially with the original vaccine, that the shot would reduce risk of transmission and reduce risk of hospitalization and death. Both were true.

If you want, we can find what gg and I were saying in April of last year about the vaccine to see which of us turned out to be more correct.

Posted by tangplay on 10/14/2022 5:15:00 PM (view original):
Obviously if she was going out there day after day saying that there is zero risk of transmission if you get the vaccine, it's bad. I'm not defending that. I'm not familiar with that exact clip but I would bet money that if I watched through examples of Maddow talking about the vaccine I would not come away believing that there is zero risk of transmission if you get the vaccine.

You can find examples of misleading language or people misspeaking, but the argument that vaccine people were saying you can't ever get covid is a classic strawman. We were saying, especially with the original vaccine, that the shot would reduce risk of transmission and reduce risk of hospitalization and death. Both were true.

The reason you don't watch the clip because it overtly disproves your gut belief about what the clip would probably be.

Super ironic from the guy who is too cowardly to overtly state and debate his own beliefs.

Meanwhile, I watched the full video, and it was totally consistent from what I expected. Maddow hypes up the data and misleads with rhetoric, but ON THE SCREEN shows the study she was referencing, which stated that the vaccine could prevent 80%-90% of infections. The popular clip that was spread came right after that study was shown on screen. I totally agree that the segment was misleading and Maddow did an awful job interpreting the study, but she literally showed the thing she was referencing and it didn't claim zero transmission.

And even in the broader video she repeatedly says that the main benefit of the vaccine was to reduce serious illness and death, and that the transmission study was an outlier.

So I turned out to be totally correct; even in your cherrypicked example (that I even acknowledge was misinformation), I still wouldn't have come away believing that there is zero risk of transmission if you get the vaccine.