Player transferring after missing 4 starts? Topic

Can someone help me with this.. I just had a bigtime Freshman transfer after missing 4 starts in the regular season.
His exact words were: Coach, you promised to make me the starter and didn't deliver. I promised I'd transfer - I'm delivering. Kiss my curvy butt goodbye. BTW, I'll make sure everyone knows what a liar you are." I'm clueless on this one, he started 22 games in the regular season, and came off the bench the other 4. He was promised to be a starter and get 20 minutes, he ended with 19.7 minutes per game. Has anyone else had someone transfer with only missing 4 regular season starts?
2/20/2023 6:37 PM
yes its general about 80% but once you get the first message from him complaining and dont change it you got the 2nd message which pretty much guarantees he leaves
2/20/2023 6:58 PM
Yep-I’ve had a player transfer after starting 25/26 games and exceeding his minutes promised.

While this is definitely the exception to the rule, it shows every player has a built in threshold for what they’re willing to accept for broken promises before they’ll transfer. *Most* will be just fine with 20 starts.

If you get an email from the player saying he’s angry the ONLY way to be certain he won’t transfer is to get a follow-up email telling you he’s happy again.
2/20/2023 7:12 PM
The problem was too many missed starts up front. Starting 9 of 10 non-con was probably OK (though some will complain even then) but then sitting him for the first 3 conference games was the killer. That put him well below the 80% threshold at the first message waypoint. Forget final percentages and forget the 21 or 22 game rule of thumb at that point. I'm not sure the extent to which there is value starting him in the CT and NT - presumably there is plenty there, but it's hard to say for sure, because some players leave regardless when you make them mad like that, and they don't send a message after a certain point in the season, so it's impossible to judge exactly what your postseason starts do. But if he's a priority to keep, the best shot is to keep starting him until you get an all clear, or through the end of the season, if no all clear is sent.
2/20/2023 7:17 PM
So... uh... completely unrelated. But how do you scout transfers? ;)
2/21/2023 9:58 PM
Send your assistant out in RS2 and select “new players only” when telling him who to find. If there are transfers in the radius you select you just have to hope he finds them. There are also times a transfer will reach out and contact you.
2/22/2023 10:55 AM
I suspect Basketts was joking, but it is valuable info that not all coaches know (probably most don't really know efficient ways to find transfers).

In this case, if there's one guy you know has transferred, but you don't know how to get him in your pool, the easiest thing to do is to check one of the former team's game logs, examine his player card, and from there you know his home state. That's where you'll find him (and for those unaware, those game logs will also give you his current and past ratings without any scouting, and can sometimes give you an idea of growth potential, if you can assume the former coach was developing him in a normal manner). Now where it gets tricky is if you have already done FSS on that state, because that's the easiest and cheapest way to just get the 1 level required to recruit him. You can only do FSS on a state once per season. So if you have, you'll have to use the assistant, like darnoc says above, and hope he pops up in there. If the player is beyond the range where your assistant has gone (say you've thoroughly scouted within 500, and this player is 800 miles away) your chances are pretty slim if you can't use FSS. But you can increase them substantially by narrowing the pool by position. So it can be complicated and a lot of steps, but definitely doable in most cases, provided you have saved *some* scouting budget for this kind of thing.
2/22/2023 2:08 PM (edited)
Oh damn. I was joking but glad I did cause that's a ton of valuable information. Thanks darnoc and shoe.
2/22/2023 10:57 PM
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