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My heavy perimeter team goes up against a team of slightly lower skill playing a -3 (and in the second half, a -5) and shoots .333, .111 from long distance.

My team with a weighted-average +5 points in rebounding gets out-rebounded 17-30.

The other team, despite going up against a balanced defense of stronger skill level, shoots .609, .556 from three.



I mean, the other coach is a friend of mine and I don't begrudge him a win, but a BLOWOUT? What?
10/12/2009 12:40 PM
In terms of minutes-weighted averages, Vermont was +5.9 SPD, +4.9 REB, +0.7 PER, -5.1 BH, +0.8 PASS, +1.6 STAM, and + about a third of a grade of IQ, with ATH, DEF, and LP being within +/- 0.2.
10/12/2009 12:44 PM
You have really poor ATH in the post, which could easily explain the REB margin.

In all honestly, you have a D- prestige team with very little in the way of legit DI talent, so rather than nitpicking at individual game results you should be patting yourself on the back for going 17-10 and being in line for a PIT berth.
10/12/2009 1:03 PM
Without even looking my first comment was going to be "You had an off shooting night".

C'mon it's one game... These threads are getting quite redundant.
10/12/2009 3:05 PM
The other team is D prestige with even less in the way of legit DI talent. I'm not nitpicking, say, my one-point loss to Gardner-Webb. I'm nitpicking my CT loss to a coach in his first year with a previously-Sim team (I'm second-year.)

As for ATH/SPD/REB: me - him

starting PF 59/50/95 - 50/42/94
starting C 45/48/91 - 58/27/88

backup PF 69/52/85 - 86/57/82
backup C 45/27/84 - 64/33/91

So that could be a possible explanation, yeah.
10/12/2009 3:06 PM
If I had a nickle for every time one of my teams shot like crap from downtown against a minus 3 or minus 5 defense, I'd never have to pay for another HD season.
10/12/2009 3:34 PM
First, you just can't try to dig that deep into your team's performance in one game. Believe me, I understand the inclination to do so. But you just can't. Bad shooting nights happen in real life all the time as well.

But let's say you really wanted to. Someone on the other side of the coin might say something like this:

Folse is a guy who might've performed well against the sagging D with his good pe (although his sp/ath aren't so hot for a starting DI guard). He did go 1-5 from 3p. Couple things there: 1. Looks like you've got him at either +1 or +2, so he might've taken 3's he shouldn't have. 2. If he'd hit just one more shot, he'd have been at 40% and you'd have nothing to say. Do you really think you can draw any sort of meaningful conclusion when one shot made or missed in either direction dramatically changes the outcome?

Look at your other two guys who really didn't do well, Alford and Booth (combined 3-for-12). They're both below average, sim-recruited big men trying to cram the ball in against a very sagging defense. Did you really expect them to do well?

You were a little bit better than your opponent, not a lot. Did you have a bad night? Yes. Is that frustrating. Sure. Is it a crazy, unexplainable result? Hardly.
10/12/2009 4:00 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By girt25 on 10/12/2009Folse is a guy who might've performed well against the sagging D with his good pe (although his sp/ath aren't so hot for a starting DI guard). He did go 1-5 from 3p. Couple things there: 1. Looks like you've got him at either +1 or +2, so he might've taken 3's he shouldn't have


Folse is at 0.
Quote: Originally Posted By girt25 on 10/12/2009

Look at your other two guys who really didn't do well, Alford and Booth (combined 3-for-12). They're both below average, sim-recruited big men trying to cram the ball in against a very sagging defense. Did you really expect them to do well?

Booth was shooting 74/147=50.3% going into the game for 7.2 PPG, actually. I'm still not sure why.



But certainly my team still sucks.
10/12/2009 10:54 PM
Some results just can't be explained. Mich losing to app st at home? On paper that should not happen. The best teams don't always win.
10/12/2009 11:24 PM
imagine lloyd carr posting on a forum after the app state game

"we were +21.5 in ath, +15.2 in strength..."
10/12/2009 11:32 PM
Quote: Originally posted by furry_nipps on 10/12/2009Some results just can't be explained. Mich losing to app st at home? On paper that should not happen. The best teams don't always win.

there are variables in real life that dont exist in a game.
10/12/2009 11:35 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By cornfused on 10/12/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By girt25 on 10/12/2009
Folse is a guy who might've performed well against the sagging D with his good pe (although his sp/ath aren't so hot for a starting DI guard). He did go 1-5 from 3p. Couple things there: 1. Looks like you've got him at either +1 or +2, so he might've taken 3's he shouldn't have.



Folse is at 0.
Quote: Originally Posted By girt25 on 10/12/2009

Look at your other two guys who really didn't do well, Alford and Booth (combined 3-for-12). They're both below average, sim-recruited big men trying to cram the ball in against a very sagging defense. Did you really expect them to do well?

Booth was shooting 74/147=50.3% going into the game for 7.2 PPG, actually. I'm still not sure why.

But certainly my team still sucks.

Yeah, and Alford was shooting 37%.

Don't really care what either had done though. They're both below average post players trying to score inside against a packed-in defense.
10/12/2009 11:53 PM
Quote: Originally posted by tmacfan12 on 10/12/2009
Quote: Originally posted by furry_nipps on 10/12/2009Some results just can't be explained. Mich losing to app st at home? On paper that should not happen. The best teams don't always win.
there are variables in real life that dont exist in a game.

like player personalities.
10/13/2009 1:20 AM
Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 10/13/2009
Quote: Originally posted by tmacfan12 on 10/12/2009
Quote: Originally posted by furry_nipps on 10/12/2009Some results just can't be explained. Mich losing to app st at home? On paper that should not happen. The best teams don't always win.
there are variables in real life that dont exist in a game.

like player personalities
Or like your personality genius
10/13/2009 4:38 PM
Quote: Originally posted by tmacfan12 on 10/12/2009
Quote: Originally posted by furry_nipps on 10/12/2009Some results just can't be explained. Mich losing to app st at home? On paper that should not happen. The best teams don't always win.
there are variables in real life that dont exist in a game.

So extreme results that happen in RL should not happen on here?
10/13/2009 4:47 PM
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