Need help - first year at DII Topic

I have a whole host of questions as we enter recruiting. If you could answer any of them that would be awesome. I run a Fastbreak/Fullcourt Press combo for reference in these questions.

I heard that the most important stats are: Speed, Athleticism, Rebounding, Stamina. Do you agree that should be my core skills I recruit?

Is rebounding important for gaurds?

Is athleticism more important for bigs, speed more important for guards?

ballhandling reduces turnovers and improves scoring, passing improves distribution, and perimeter improves shooting. Correct? Do you think it sounds appropriate for my offense to focus on ballhandling, but try and get a PG who can pass, and a SG who can shoot?

What is the lowest work ethic you guys will normally consider taking?

Does a players hieght actually impact his ability anyway, or is it just the ratings that matter?

It seems like at DII the recruiting stars service makes a lot more sense than at DIII. I assume everybody agrees it is good to use it, correct? how many surrounding states do you think are appropriate typically if you are useing it?

I heard that with FCP that the defense rating doesn't actually matter. Agree?

I have 5 schollys open. It seems like the best stratagy would be to take 1 or 2 premier players and then just try and fill up the class with low budget guys. Do you agree, or do most people try and get a more balanced recruiting class?

Is there an approximate limit on the standard recruiting tools before they stop being effective? I heard after 40 phone calls or packages they stop working. Is there a similar # for campus or home visits?

Any idea as to wheter campus or home visits are more successful, or do you just need to follow player's emails?

Sorry for the long list - I just want to get good fast and not waste this season as I have 5 scholarships.

10/14/2009 3:08 PM
Spd and Ath are your best friend.
10/14/2009 3:12 PM
1. as of right now def ratings will not matter

2. You want as much speed in the 1-3 as posible. By seniors you want no one lower then 75. Ath in bigs can be as low as 40 but preferebly 60+

3. rebounding in the 3-4 needs to be 80-100 by seniors

4. BH and pass for the 1-3 needs to be 70 + by seniors.

5. Find a sf that has good(70+ by senior) ath/spd/per and a reb of at least 30

Lastley watch the top teams and that will help you gauge were you want to be.
10/14/2009 3:39 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By witchkinguw on 10/14/2009I heard that the most important stats are: Speed, Athleticism, Rebounding, Stamina. Do you agree that should be my core skills I recruit?

Speed and ath above all, but I have been very successful (relative of course, I have been very successful in conference but struggle to get past the sweet 16) recruiting primarily ath/reb in bigs and spd/bh/pass/per in guards to the detriment of all else.

Is rebounding important for gaurds?

It helps but I wouldn't recruit for that specifically.

Is athleticism more important for bigs, speed more important for guards?

Yes, although with press you should probably want speed most places. If given the choice, however, that's a correct statement.

ballhandling reduces turnovers and improves scoring, passing improves distribution, and perimeter improves shooting. Correct? Do you think it sounds appropriate for my offense to focus on ballhandling, but try and get a PG who can pass, and a SG who can shoot?

In the fastbreak, I definitely think you need a PG who has BH and passing. I think your SG should have BH and Per. Again, that's only if you to choose, though.

What is the lowest work ethic you guys will normally consider taking?

I am probably lower than most. I think most would put the number at 20. I will fall to the teens if the guy has already-useful cores.

Does a players hieght actually impact his ability anyway, or is it just the ratings that matter?

No, it doesn't matter.

It seems like at DII the recruiting stars service makes a lot more sense than at DIII. I assume everybody agrees it is good to use it, correct? how many surrounding states do you think are appropriate typically if you are useing it?

I usually determine which guys I can pull down before I use FSS. I don't know if that's the consensus, but I think it makes sense.

I heard that with FCP that the defense rating doesn't actually matter. Agree?

I don't know if it doesn't matter, but it doesn't matter the way it should, and I would recruit a guy with low defense over a guy with low cores.

I have 5 schollys open. It seems like the best stratagy would be to take 1 or 2 premier players and then just try and fill up the class with low budget guys. Do you agree, or do most people try and get a more balanced recruiting class?

I would go after 3 big-time guys. If you can sign them easily, then go after two more. If not, then get two fillers. Recruiting smart is important. If you do it enough, you can figure out when you are going to have a battle and just avoid it.

Is there an approximate limit on the standard recruiting tools before they stop being effective? I heard after 40 phone calls or packages they stop working. Is there a similar # for campus or home visits?

I'm probably not the person to ask this question, but to be successful at D2, you should focus on pulldowns, in my opinion. There are some good D2 guys out there, but most of the great D2 players are pulldowns.

Any idea as to wheter campus or home visits are more successful, or do you just need to follow player's emails?

I think campus visits are always more helpful.

Sorry for the long list - I just want to get good fast and not waste this season as I have 5 scholarships.



I bolded my responses under your questions. I'm sure some other guys know more, but I think that's a non-controversial base.
10/14/2009 4:26 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By brianp87 on 10/14/2009
1. as of right now def ratings will not matter

2. You want as much speed in the 1-3 as posible. By seniors you want no one lower then 75. Ath in bigs can be as low as 40 but preferebly 60+

3. rebounding in the 3-4 needs to be 80-100 by seniors

4. BH and pass for the 1-3 needs to be 70 + by seniors.

5. Find a sf that has good(70+ by senior) ath/spd/per and a reb of at least 30

Lastley watch the top teams and that will help you gauge were you want to be.



I assume this is a typo and you meant 4-5. If not, I'd sure like to find those SF's that can rebound like THAT!
10/14/2009 4:29 PM
I'm probably not the person to ask this question, but to be successful at D2, you should focus on pulldowns, in my opinion. There are some good D2 guys out there, but most of the great D2 players are pulldowns.

I never attempted pulldowns at DIII - could you describe a successful stratagy for this, or know of an existing conversation that has already discussed this?

Can I recruit pulldowns successfully with a B- rep?

should I just neglect recruiting alltogehter until I figure out which pulldown guys are going to be available?

Thanks for you helpful comments.
10/14/2009 5:07 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By emy1013 on 10/14/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By brianp87 on 10/14/2009

1. as of right now def ratings will not matter

2. You want as much speed in the 1-3 as posible. By seniors you want no one lower then 75. Ath in bigs can be as low as 40 but preferebly 60+

3. rebounding in the 3-4 needs to be 80-100 by seniors

4. BH and pass for the 1-3 needs to be 70 + by seniors.

5. Find a sf that has good(70+ by senior) ath/spd/per and a reb of at least 30

Lastley watch the top teams and that will help you gauge were you want to be.




I assume this is a typo and you meant 4-5. If not, I'd sure like to find those SF's that can rebound like THAT!
sorry yes 4-5 lol
10/14/2009 5:28 PM
you can really find bigs with that high of reb in d2 with fss? They must really be lacking in their other skills.

10/14/2009 5:39 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 10/14/2009
you can really find bigs with that high of reb in d2 with fss? They must really be lacking in their other skills.



Take a look at my St. Mary's team. If you look hard enough, you can find them.
10/14/2009 5:50 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By witchkinguw on 10/14/2009
I'm probably not the person to ask this question, but to be successful at D2, you should focus on pulldowns, in my opinion. There are some good D2 guys out there, but most of the great D2 players are pulldowns.

I never attempted pulldowns at DIII - could you describe a successful stratagy for this, or know of an existing conversation that has already discussed this?

Can I recruit pulldowns successfully with a B- rep?

should I just neglect recruiting alltogehter until I figure out which pulldown guys are going to be available?

Thanks for you helpful comments.
I sent you a sitemail. Hope it helps!
10/14/2009 5:51 PM
Yes by the time there seniors its not uncommon Z. aT least not for the elite teams
10/14/2009 5:57 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By brianp87 on 10/14/2009Yes by the time there seniors its not uncommon Z. aT least not for the elite team
ok well it has been a while, you have to remember this kid is not at an elite school yet (ik i give advice and think dang not everyone has my prestige...) so he might not be looking for guys to reach 100.
10/14/2009 6:14 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 10/14/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By brianp87 on 10/14/2009
Yes by the time there seniors its not uncommon Z. aT least not for the elite teams
ok well it has been a while, you have to remember this kid is not at an elite school yet (ik i give advice and think dang not everyone has my prestige...) so he might not be looking for guys to reach 100


Totally agree. Overshooting recruits can set the program back a few years.
10/14/2009 6:15 PM
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