okay i know some where in here theres a post as to what type of players you can expect o recruit in D1 with an D+ prestege, but i will ask the question anyways. so if some one could shed some light on the subject and let me know what i can expect in regards to recruiting with a D+ prestege. Any and All help and insight would be great.

i would say 2 star players would be your max. if i was you i would target local 1 and 2 star players with good fss. you might be able to get a 3 star that is in your back yard, but would likely be a drop down player

Whoever the big guys don't take.

Is there a big difference between D+ and C-, or they essentially the same. I know in D2 A+/A are pretty similar.

I have a bad habit of jumping from D3 to D1 and I can generally only land a D-, D or D+ school. Here is what I have learned. The 2-star players you can get generally suck - very low potential. The no-star or 1-star athletes will generally consider you. There are plenty of players that are out there that have plenty of potential in "key" areas. I took over Binghamton, which was a D- a few a seasons back. I loaded up on guys with potential. We made the NT our first year and the prestige shot up - which is the key.

Good luck.

thanks for all the info, i will be checking back to see if anyone else add any extra info. so basicly i should stay pretty close to home and get players who can has pretty good potential in key areas. hmm

Sound advice at any level. 2 star is about the max for D+, but they will not be the absolute best 2-stars, since C and B prestige teams will look to pickup the high potential 2-stars.

I would say you can get consideration from just about all recruits with a D+ (based on my experience) with the exception of 5 star freshman which takes at least a C- or C rating for. I have however gotten consideration from 5 star JC's with D+. Chances are though higher prestige schools

In the end it doesn't matter if the guy has 1 star or 4 stars IMO when you are at a D or D+ school. Just find solid guys that others are passing on. Try to get in the door early for 1 or 2 star guys you reallly like. Monitor 3 and even 4 star players. If a good coach has one spot for two players and can only sign one then that 2nd player will be open game. You see good players openly fairly often it seems like but again, you have to have a bit of luck and $ to jump in on them quick before anyone else does.

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I recently jumped to d2 with a c- and a d team. With my C- team I could have everyone at least take my calls. Even 5 stars were giving me backup messages, and although they would never drop, I managed to get a 4 star and a bunch of 2 star players each of my 2 years there.

The d prestige was much different. The best I could get was a couple of 1 star (ranked 91,78) pgs a 78thranked no star sf and a one star c

The only 2 star player I landed was a 56th ranked juco pf. Maybe I could've done better, but I was shocked at the difference. Even a 2 star player 10 miles wouldn't look at me from the outset.

Both of my DI teams started out with prestige in the D range (D- and D+). These were the things that worked for me:

1) Recruiting as close to home as possible. I think that makes sense regardless of your prestige, but its especially important when you've got low prestige and need to maximize your funds. Also, at that prestige, you're going to be looking at guys that are pretty similar in ability, might as well go for the lower cost options. My preferred distance was within 400 miles, extending out after the first day or so, when you could identify targeted guys.

2) Deciding which "key areas" on which to focus. At that prestige, you're unlikely to get someone that has high potential or cores (or both) in every key rating, so you need to decide what you're going to target and how that will work in your system.

For example, at PG, I focused on guys that had High BH/Pass first, ATH/SPD second, DEF third. In order to find these guys, I sacrificed PER. I switched the team's Defense from man-to-man to zone, because I knew that I might have the opportunity to get someone with great cores in things other than DEF because they wouldn't work in a man-to-man system.

At a low prestige level, you need to think about your overall team profile pretty carefully and figure out which key areas are must haves and which ones you can give up.

3) Avoiding battles- Once again, this is smart at almost all levels, but it's especially true for low prestige schools. I've just found that it's generally not worth it. I try not to go into battles unless I'm 90% sure that I'm going to win, you just don't see that very often when you have a D level prestige.

4) Being patient- While at a high DI school, the first recruiting cycle is the most important, at the D level, I usually did very little on the first cycle. It took several instances of dumping $5,000 on an opening cycle only to find myself on the considering list with C+/B- schools that I was never going to beat before I backed off. After that, I would send out small amounts to see who would be interested and then waited to see who was still open after the first cycle and go from there. I don't think that I got any lesser recruits and saved a lot of money.

Hope this helps!

I'd echo everything that pdanao wrote. I did essentially the same when I took over at a D- prestige D-I program. I spent very little on recruits until it either seemed safe that nobody else would jump in or if I thought that one of my targets was being recruited by another coach that over-extended themselves and likely didn't have the resources to battle much. Each year, I had enough recruiting money to fund my FSS costs for the next season.

I'm an expert at "bad coach/bad school" recruiting. Much of my badness as a coach is offset by having patience. "D" prestige recruiting means it is very difficult to compete with the big boys in whatever conference you might be in. Just recruiting for what your team needs helps you slowly improve. Usually the better coaches eventually move out of your conference and recruiting gets a little bit easier. Also, at some point, a really good player that fits your system will show up close to home and miracle of miracles you won't have a battle over him.

This ain't a quick or even smart method to improve your schools prestige but it IS a way. A way that can come crashing down by over-reaching during recruiting.