And I don't mean 4.0. (I don't think.)

Instead I'm curious to know how people handle the delicate balance between keeping a player eligible and preventing the player from developing due to an excess of study hall minutes.

I know that this balance is not nearly as important post-potential as it was previously but I'd still be curious to see what folks attempt to do.


Here are my goals ... if a player ends up with a GPA higher than this I feel like I gave him too many study hall minutes. And I fully admit to probably being way too worried about guys becoming ineligible. I also have the bar set pretty high to begin with since I hate having to give upperclassmen any minutes in study hall.


FRESHMEN: 3.5 GPA
SOPHOMORES: 3.2 GPA
JUNIORS: 2.8 GPA
SENIORS: 2.6 GPA

Normally I have no need to be worried about the upperclassmen so those last two numbers are more where I would be worried if the grades dipped below that in terms of possibly becoming ineligible.

really do not care at all, unless they came in as ineligibles.
SH:

10 min all frosh unless extra high or low HS GPAs. and even with high ones, i usually go with 10 unless its a SF and i need the minutes.

0 min all others.

adjust at midterms if needed. maybe 1 season in 20 i'll have minutes in a non-frosh at the beginning of a season (or grade term) based on previous struggles, or an effort to get an ineligible above 2.7

I miss the old days when you could put 20-25 minutes into FT and everyone was B+ or higher. Anyway, my approach to GPA is to recruit high to begin with. I rarely take anyone below 2.5. I give all Frosh 10 minutes regardless of their HS GPA. If at mid-terms anyone is yellow-lined, Frosh or higher, I give them more minutes. If they are 2.0 - 2.4 I give them 5 more minutes. If they are below 2.0 I give them 10 or more minutes depending on how low they are. I don't really care where there final GPA lands as long as they remain eligible.

I follow Saint Weena Ch 5: verse 2

"I rarely take anyone below 2.5. I give all Frosh 10 minutes regardless of their HS GPA. If at mid-terms anyone is yellow-lined, Frosh or higher, I give them more minutes. If they are 2.0 - 2.4 I give them 5 more minutes. If they are below 2.0 I give them 10 or more minutes depending on how low they are. I don't really care where there final GPA lands as long as they remain eligible."

Other translations sometimes mention if a player has a 4.0gpa during the year then lowering studyhall minutes might be righteous.

I give five minutes to everyone. It works.

I run 0 tell midterm on everyone and then if they are close to the border theni give 4-10 mins rarely do I lose anyone

Quote: Originally posted by jenningss on 1/01/2010I follow Saint Weena Ch 5: verse 2

"I rarely take anyone below 2.5. I give all Frosh 10 minutes regardless of their HS GPA. If at mid-terms anyone is yellow-lined, Frosh or higher, I give them more minutes. If they are 2.0 - 2.4 I give them 5 more minutes. If they are below 2.0 I give them 10 or more minutes depending on how low they are. I don't really care where there final GPA lands as long as they remain eligible."

Other translations sometimes mention if a player has a 4.0gpa during the year then lowering studyhall minutes might be righteous.

Well said, jenningss! My translation says "all Frosh receive 8 minutes regardless of their HS GPA".

I also tend to give upperclassmen some SH minutes based on how much below 3.0 their cumulative GPA is, but I'm an idealist and still like the idea of student/athletes. Seniors rarely get any SH time, though; I figure they should be pretty much set....don't ask about my grades during Senior year in either HS or college!

All freshmen don't need 10 minutes IMHO. Give those with gpa lower than 3 .0 6 minutes and see how their midterms are. If their gpa is over 3.4 i have never had a frosh go inel after giving them zero minutes.

I normally dont let their GPA affect my recruiting. I'll even take a 2.0 if he is a solid fit. I start with 10 minutes as well per freshman.

From there, I just play it by ear when the mid-term grades roll around and adjust accordingly. More minutes for a guy whose grades are struggling. If they are doing OK, I keep it at 10.

As for subsequent years, (assuming that I got their GPA up high enough early on) I seem to reduce study hall time slightly the higher their class. By their Sr year and maybe even the end of their Jr year, they are between 0-2 minutes. No way they drop grades that quickly to become ineligible.

I'm going to come of as whining here but I promise that isn't the intent. But I don't get how you guys that do zero minutes and adjust at midterms get away with it.

I know I give too many study hall minutes but I've been doing that for almost a year after within a couple weeks of one another:

1. I had a high school 2.0 student come to campus and I gave him 20 minutes of study hall. That produced a 1.6 GPA at midterms and after upping the minutes to 40, he still flunked with a 1.8.

2. I had a sophomore that finished his freshman year with a 3.2 GPA (I think the high school GPA was 2.9 or 2.8) and after I gave 8 study hall minutes to him as a sophomore he reported a 1.9 at midterms and after increasing the study hall minutes to 18 he finished finals at a 1.9.


And just today I got the midterms in Knight. I signed a 2.53 GPA that is getting 22 minutes of study hall. He's yellowlined right now with a 2.3 GPA at midterms. I feel obligated to increase his minutes even more since but based on what's in this thread apparently I'd be a fool for doing that.

This is where I come off as whiny -- and again I don't mean to do that -- but how are you able to not give any minutes and adjust at midterms? I'm obviously doing something wrong because it would seems that I'm giving out 3-4 times as many minutes but having about the same number of players fall ineligible. Do you only sign the brightest high school students? Or when you give zero minutes to a 2.7 HS player and he gets a 1.8 at midterms how many minutes do you give?

kujay - "But I don't get how you guys that do zero minutes and adjust at midterms get away with it."

you just have to not care if you lose a guy once in a while. i used to play to never lose a guy, 10 minutes a frosh, etc... but out of laziness i stopped taking the time to give people study hall minutes (i usually try to set to 0 once final grades come out, so everyone is 0 to start. and freshman, i don't like to give study hall minutes during exh, as i am unsure if it counts). and what i found is most guys are ok, sometimes u have to adjust to midterms, but on the whole, it is less effort. probably better for growth too, especially if you managed it. i also postulate that semester 2 counts more than semester 1, as in real life.