IE - We didnt do our job correctly the first time; nor did we bother to take care of these issues during the "beta test" but we will simply ignore these issues and continue to treat our paying customers like child labor in Asia; Seble, I was one of your biggest defenders and told everyone to give you time...etc...but you've been a big fail. I'm glad to see so many vets have finally had enough and are dropping the game...when you have the die hards that stuck through the potential disaster leaving that says enough.

Quote: Originally Posted By mmt0315 on 6/08/2010
IE - We didnt do our job correctly the first time; nor did we bother to take care of these issues during the "beta test" but we will simply ignore these issues and continue to treat our paying customers like child labor in Asia; Seble, I was one of your biggest defenders and told everyone to give you time...etc...but you've been a big fail. I'm glad to see so many vets have finally had enough and are dropping the game...when you have the die hards that stuck through the potential disaster leaving that says enough.

Well said.

I'm sorry, I just have to laugh at the use of the alias here.

Quote: Originally Posted By zbrent716 on 6/08/2010I'm sorry, I just have to laugh at the use of the alias here

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why do you care?

Quote: Originally Posted By pinkeye on 6/08/2010why do you care

Why do I care? Really?

Quote: Originally posted by mmt0315 on 6/08/2010Seble, I was one of your biggest defenders and told everyone to give you time...

Now that's funny.

Quote: Originally Posted By antonsirius on 6/08/2010

Quote: Originally posted by mmt0315 on 6/08/2010 Seble, I was one of your biggest defenders and told everyone to give you time...

Now that's funny

You obviously werent around or not paying attention, when the change was made, OR when people were complaining about how long the new engine was taking to roll out or any number of issues. By the way...I like how you disappear...when it suits you but reappear for comments like these.

And by change I mean from Tarek to Him.

What a helpful thread. Let's insult the one person who seems to be motivated to fix the engine. Are you sure you don't want to add a few expletives so this thread carries some more weight?

No no not expletive laced postings....expletive-laced tickets are the only way to get results....silly grasshopper.

Quote: Originally posted by mniven on 6/08/2010What a helpful thread. Let's insult the one person who seems to be motivated to fix the engine. Are you sure you don't want to add a few expletives so this thread carries some more weight?

Trying to fix something he broke in the 1st place is kinda like a thief saying "Hey, I found $20 out of the $40 that was stolen!" isn't it?

Quote: Originally Posted By mniven on 6/08/2010What a helpful thread. Let's insult the one person who seems to be motivated to fix the engine. Are you sure you don't want to add a few expletives so this thread carries some more weight

Why do I need to be helpful? Can't I vent as a paying customer? Cant I be ****** off that the only guy that supposedly is motivated is lazy and incompetant (SEE HOW THE BETA TEST WAS RUN)? Cant I be annoyed that within a couple of weeks Ive completely lost interest in something that I did for entertainment since 2006? Cant I complain that they are charging me to test an engine that shoulda been done in beta testing?

And you know what maybe I am being helpful, maybe newer users or people that arent sure about joining the game, will read this and decide this isnt the type of product they want to spend their money on because they dont like how WIS does business. And please spare me with the "every software" will have bugs argument. That would be acceptable if the beta test was done properly the release was not rushed through.

The fact customer serivce is sending out responses to tickets as though nothing is wrong is another joke.

He's a big boy, let him respond and provide a reasonable explanation as to why things were rushed.

You're right its good for the game when coaches like:

Jskenner, Headfirst, Sully; Zhawks and Mlat all quit withing a couple of weeks of each other for the same reasons and thats just naming a few...

Quote: Originally Posted By ll316 on 6/08/2010

Quote: Originally posted by mniven on 6/08/2010 What a helpful thread. Let's insult the one person who seems to be motivated to fix the engine. Are you sure you don't want to add a few expletives so this thread carries some more weight?

Trying to fix something he broke in the 1st place is kinda like a thief saying "Hey, I found $20 out of the $40 that was stolen!" isn't it

As I've said before, did people really think that a complete overhaul of a sports simulation engine was going to go off without a hitch? There are parts of the new engine that seem to be working, are there not? How do we know that making some relatively minor adjustments to the press and HCA won't result in a better engine than before?

Quote: Originally posted by mmt0315 on 6/08/2010By the way...I like how you disappear...when it suits you but reappear for comments like these.

Yeah, because threads as brilliant as this one demand insightful commentary, and not snarky dismissals highlighting the fact that since the new engine launched you've displayed all the patience of a fruit fly on poppers.