Slowdown -5 is back! Topic

LOL. -3 in the first half, -5 in the 2nd.  Owned. Perhaps it was the stellar defensive ratings of 23 and 39 which caused my guards such a poor shooting night.


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7/21/2010 2:39 AM (edited)
Look how few threes you shoot; what did they have to lose by minusing you?

And. .um. . their guards have a d rating of 91 and 28,  not 23 and 39.
7/21/2010 7:22 AM
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How is -5 back, when you did so much better in the second half scoring wise than the first half?

I wouldn't be complaining about the -5, I would be complaining about the randomness that just happened, that seems to not have changed at all.
7/21/2010 8:40 AM
Couldn't disagree more on this. He started -3 and you were 0-3 shooting. His team is #47 RPI versus you who are #15 RPI. Your team is slightly better but not by a huge margin on ratings. Switched by sim to -5 at halftime (that logic was right on too considering you only took 3 3pt attempts). Don't see anything wrong with this. The -5 was magic running a slowdown -5 from the beginning, not a switch at halftime. Just b/c you lose does not mean the engine is flawed.
7/21/2010 8:46 AM
Your team is certainly better and will win that game the majority of the time but I can see the randomness here. Their team was full of A- and higher IQs and they will spark some upsets with that.
7/21/2010 8:50 AM
-5 never left. Check out Mary Washington in d3 Naismith-- rusticity took them over about 6 seasons ago and recruited specifically to play the -5.
7/21/2010 8:52 AM
Posted by 1calloway on 7/21/2010 8:46:00 AM (view original):
Couldn't disagree more on this. He started -3 and you were 0-3 shooting. His team is #47 RPI versus you who are #15 RPI. Your team is slightly better but not by a huge margin on ratings. Switched by sim to -5 at halftime (that logic was right on too considering you only took 3 3pt attempts). Don't see anything wrong with this. The -5 was magic running a slowdown -5 from the beginning, not a switch at halftime. Just b/c you lose does not mean the engine is flawed.
I would have run the exact same gameplan against you. The -5 is definitely not back in this engine.

If anything I'm seeing teams get lit up using - defenses alll the time.

7/21/2010 9:09 AM
What about uptempo -5 with the worst High-DI roster you've ever seen?  Is that a new glitch? 
7/21/2010 10:36 AM
Posted by a_in_the_b on 7/21/2010 7:22:00 AM (view original):
Look how few threes you shoot; what did they have to lose by minusing you?

And. .um. . their guards have a d rating of 91 and 28,  not 23 and 39.
I shot 14 3's and made 3 of them, with very good shooters, against poorly rated defenders.  Clearly, shooting MORE 3's was the answer?

Secondly, His wings  were DEF 23 and 37(against my 2 very good shooters) so  I actually gave them more credit than they deserve.   The 91 is his PG, who wasn't guarding either of those players I was referring to.

His PG wasn't guarding my 2 or 3.


7/21/2010 10:58 PM (edited)
Posted by pinkeye on 7/21/2010 8:17:00 AM (view original):
and you outrebounded him playing +3

it happens brah
because my rebounding is considerably better.
7/21/2010 10:56 PM
Posted by mullycj on 7/21/2010 9:09:00 AM (view original):
Posted by 1calloway on 7/21/2010 8:46:00 AM (view original):
Couldn't disagree more on this. He started -3 and you were 0-3 shooting. His team is #47 RPI versus you who are #15 RPI. Your team is slightly better but not by a huge margin on ratings. Switched by sim to -5 at halftime (that logic was right on too considering you only took 3 3pt attempts). Don't see anything wrong with this. The -5 was magic running a slowdown -5 from the beginning, not a switch at halftime. Just b/c you lose does not mean the engine is flawed.
I would have run the exact same gameplan against you. The -5 is definitely not back in this engine.

If anything I'm seeing teams get lit up using - defenses alll the time.

It seemed like it, until my last 2 games of the season, where my guys who shot great all year suddenly couldn't drop it in the ocean against poor defenders, while their counterparts drained shots despite my + defense.and superior defenders.
7/21/2010 11:00 PM
Your team performed significantly better in the 2nd half against the -5 than it did in the first half against the -3.

So does that mean the -3 is magic? How about if I find one half where a team played poorly against the +2 -- would that be magic?

You lost because he torched you offensively.
7/22/2010 12:40 AM
Posted by daalter on 7/22/2010 12:40:00 AM (view original):
Your team performed significantly better in the 2nd half against the -5 than it did in the first half against the -3.

So does that mean the -3 is magic? How about if I find one half where a team played poorly against the +2 -- would that be magic?

You lost because he torched you offensively.
Yep, looking at it again, you're right, he torched me with 1 good and the rest so-so shooters  against a + defense and pretty darn good defenders.  Also managed not to turn it over with  mediocre ball-handling+passing.  

And also his below average defenders shutting down my very good shooters playing a very negative defense, but  mostly the first one.

Both make perfectly logical sense, lol.

Also managed to get double the FT's, despite shooting from the outside more, but I'd rather focus on the first 2.

7/22/2010 2:30 AM (edited)
Do you do anything besides complain?  First, the new recruits aren't up to your standards.  Second, they've "overkilled" the FCP.  Third, the -5/slowdown is back.  Blah, blah, blah.................Waaaa, if it's that bad, find a new hobby.
7/22/2010 2:43 AM
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