Catcher's Arm Topic

cbriese
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Do the catcher's arm strength and arm accuracy ratings have an effect upon the likelihood of a SB attempt? Or does it only affect the likelihood of the baserunner being thrown out? In other words, will a 60/60 catcher see more SB attempts than an 80/80 guy?
7/28/2010 12:00 PM
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I don't have any facts to back it up, and it's probably a good question for a developer chat, but my guess would be that the engine is not that smart.  It certainly affects the effectiveness of throwing the runner out once he's decided to run, but I would be surprised if the runner is more likely to go based on the catcher's arm ratings.
7/28/2010 12:53 PM
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I cannot remember why I believe this, but I think that a catcher's AS influences number of attempts (higher AS --> lower attempts).  But I can't really back that up.
7/28/2010 1:06 PM
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I have no evidence either of any affect but I tend to raise/lower my aggressiveness  on my own if I see a team who has a weak defensive catcher. 
7/28/2010 1:07 PM
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As a general rule a catcher's reach should exceed his grasp.
7/28/2010 1:35 PM
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it's somewhere in the game documentation.  one of the two ratings affects likelihood of an attempt.  can't remember which one.
7/28/2010 1:41 PM
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CS says that the catcher's arm strength and arm accuracy only factor into whether or not the SB attempt is successful.

7/28/2010 4:45 PM
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but what do they know?
7/28/2010 8:06 PM
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How much difference does catcher arm actually make? I'm trying to decide whether to resign a C whose arm has fellen from 61 to 57 in the past two seasons. He's still a fine hitter, but I wonder if he is now at the point where his lack of arm strength will be too costly.
6/10/2011 2:14 AM
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Posted by jwelsh1023 on 7/28/2010 8:06:00 PM (view original):
but what do they know?
nm. u?
6/10/2011 8:34 AM
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Posted by rbedwell on 6/10/2011 2:14:00 AM (view original):
How much difference does catcher arm actually make? I'm trying to decide whether to resign a C whose arm has fellen from 61 to 57 in the past two seasons. He's still a fine hitter, but I wonder if he is now at the point where his lack of arm strength will be too costly.
you don't think 61 is a weak arm to begin with?
6/10/2011 8:34 AM
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I never saw this thread, but I have always thought (with only basic data to back it up) that AS discourages/encourages the attempt while AA is the ability to throw out the attempt.

Was there any other work done on this?
6/10/2011 3:56 PM
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Posted by sergei91 on 6/10/2011 8:34:00 AM (view original):
Posted by rbedwell on 6/10/2011 2:14:00 AM (view original):
How much difference does catcher arm actually make? I'm trying to decide whether to resign a C whose arm has fellen from 61 to 57 in the past two seasons. He's still a fine hitter, but I wonder if he is now at the point where his lack of arm strength will be too costly.
you don't think 61 is a weak arm to begin with?
Sure, 61 was weak to begin with, but it was passable given the guy's good offense.

To address the larger question, last season I platooned the C in question with another, younger C. Here's the breakdown:

Catcher A: 81 arm strength, 874.2 innings, 68 SBA, 27 CS,  (.08 SBA per inning)
Catcher B: 59 arm strength, 588.1 innings, 81 SBA, 14 CS.  (.13 SBA per inning)

I did nothing to manipulate which teams they played against; it was strictly Catcher A against RSP, Catcher B against LSP.

My conclusion based on the above data is that catcher arm strength DOES seem to influence the number of SBA.

6/10/2011 5:15 PM
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It does.  Strong armed catches see less attempts, accurate armed catchers throw out more baserunners.

6/10/2011 5:19 PM
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Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Carlos Fernandez
Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Philip Brandt
Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Morgan Coles
Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Danny Scott

Carlos Fernandez C 67 0 152.0 1 0 2 .000 0 2.072
Philip Brandt C 125 125 1030.0 16 38 134 .284 2 3.486
Morgan Coles C 32 32 244.0 5 6 28 .214 0 3.209
Danny Scott C 9 5 47.0 1 0 12 .000 0 4.979


Fernandez see 2 attempts in 152 innings.  Scott sees 12 attempts in 47 innings.   The other two are there for comparision.  Teams don't change their aggressiveness mid-game and, as you can see, Fernandez has no starts.
6/10/2011 5:23 PM
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