Can someone explain this to me? (prestige) Topic

Same conference, School 1 B- baseline, School 2, B baseline. School 1 has 5 draftees in the selected period, School 2 has no draftees. How in the world do they have the same prestige?

School 1
29 xxxxxxx 19-10 10-5 8-4 1-1 9-7   72 B- PI (1st Round)
28 xxxxxxx 9-18 4-6 5-11 0-1 8-8   120 B  
27 xxxxxxx 28-4 10-0 13-3 5-1 14-2 8 6 B Conf Champion
CT Champion
NT (Sweet 16)
26 xxxxxxx 9-18 6-6 3-11 0-1 3-13   137 C+  
25 xxxxxxx 13-15 4-5 8-9 1-1 6-10   112 B-  
24 xxxxxxx 16-14 8-4 7-9 1-1 7-9   66 B- PI (2nd Round)
23 xxxxxxx 25-5 13-0 10-3 2-2 13-3 20 20 B- Conf Champion
NT At-large Bid
NT (1st Round)
22 xxxxxxx 13-14 7-6 6-7 0-1 6-10   116 C+  
21 xxxxxxx 12-15 9-4 3-10 0-1 6-10   116 C+  
20 xxxxxxx 18-12 10-5 7-6 1-1 8-8   68 C+ PI (2nd Round)

School 2

29 xxxxxxx 13-16 5-9 6-6 2-1 7-9   105 B-  
28 xxxxxxx 18-13 10-5 6-7 2-1 7-9   61 B- PI (2nd Round)
27 xxxxxxx 10-17 6-6 4-10 0-1 3-13   121 C+  
26 xxxxxxx 13-17 6-9 5-7 2-1 3-13   88 B- PI (1st Round)
25 xxxxxxx 10-17 7-7 3-9 0-1 4-12   135 C+  
24 xxxxxxx 12-15 6-8 6-6 0-1 6-10   105 C+  
23 xxxxxxx 12-15 9-4 3-10 0-1 6-10   104 C+  
22 xxxxxxx 11-16 7-7 4-8 0-1 5-11   104 C+  
21 xxxxxxx 13-15 10-4 2-10 1-1 5-11   97 B-  
20 xxxxxxx 13-15 8-5 5-9 0-1 7-9   75 B- PI (1st Round)

9/27/2010 3:33 PM
Only thing I can think of is conference prestige and the fact since the baseline is B- school 2 hasn't done enough to make their prestige drop below the baseline and school 1 hasn't done enough to the prestige exceed the baseline. Also going back to season 20 is too far, all that matters is the last 4 seasons, and the last 2 seasons matter more than the 1st 2 seasons. So your Sweet 16 has less weight than your 9-18 and PI seasons.
9/27/2010 3:46 PM
When were the draftees? Draftees have a very minor impact on prestige (less than a third of a letter grade per draftee in my experience), and the associated prestige bump lasts only for the season immediately following the player being drafted (as I understand it... I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong). So for this comparison, you'd only be looking at draftees from the most recently completed season.
9/27/2010 4:07 PM
yeah, doomey, your draftees from 23 & 24 do nothing for you now, and those from 27 very little if anything. Otherwise, these are 2 up-and-down programs getting the same conference prestige boost. School 2's B baseline holds them up at B- despite a slightly worse last 4 seasons than School 1.
9/27/2010 4:26 PM
I know 10 seasons was too far, I was just establishing the trend. The base reality is that school 2 has only had one winning season in 10 and I, for the life of me, cannot understand how that equates to a B- in any scenario. What that really tells me is that the engine doesn't punish for losing seasons if the conference does well (although I somehow dropped in prestige with a 19 win season after dropping a 13 win one, while they maintained with a 13 win season dropping a 10...)

And you are right, prof, about the draftees, but I thought I'd put that out there.
9/27/2010 5:14 PM
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