How much stock do you put in catcher range and glove? I think arm strength, arm accuracy, and pitch calling are important...but would a catcher range of 2 and glove of 30 be a huge hinderence if he is a ++ offensive player?
12/8/2010 10:48 AM
How much do you like passed balls?
12/8/2010 11:18 AM
throughout a season, how many would I expect? I have a promising prospect in my system with proj 79-75-98-60-90 offensive ratings. Would that offensive ability be better than having a solid D catcher with 50-50-50-50-50 offensive ratings?
12/8/2010 11:42 AM
Depends on the rest of your lineup, really.  Do you need that bat?
12/8/2010 11:59 AM
I can't say I've ever looked at a catcher's range/glove when determing if he's good enough to play C.   And I'm better at HBD than tec.
12/8/2010 12:02 PM
A 2/22 had 16 in 111 games in Hamilton.  An 11/33 had 6 in 119 games.   Do the math.
12/8/2010 12:06 PM
Ok, I say this as a guy that builds pitching that's usually top 3 in the league and hitting that's usually bottom 5.

If you can get a catcher that has arm accuracy and strength 75 or more and pitch calling over 90, that will make a difference of .5 to .75 points of ERA over the listed recs (depending on the park; lower end for a pitcher's park, higher end for a hitter's park)

Generally, that will overcome just about any reasonable hitting or glove difficency unless he's truly horrid (ie. under the Mendoza line and/or 15 PBs a year). Think it in reverse; that's 80-120 runs saved a year, and not many catchers can generate that in offense.
12/8/2010 12:10 PM
Sorry, can't hyperlink at work but bear witness to

http://www.whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerRatings.aspx?pid=2141279

If I could have found his twin with a righty hitting split, I'd probably have an orgasm.

Catcher ERA under 3, throws out 30% of attempted steals, Gold Glove catcher for season 17. But had to be that over the top defensive good to justify in my head the .199 average.

Would he still be worth it with an extra 10 passed balls? I don't know.
12/8/2010 12:17 PM

This brings about another question.   If you know what your problem is, why do you keep repeating it?   Are you incapable of looking at the top offenses and saying "OH!, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING!!" and making adjustments?   Or are you content to keep patting yourself on the back for building a good pitching staff in a pitcher's park?

12/8/2010 12:28 PM
Short story; I'm in my 4th full season in my second go round, 2 for 3 in playoff appearances, could be 3 for 4 if the stars align in Coop.

When I takeover over abandoned teams in offensive parks, can't do it. I see it, I observe it, can't translate it.

So, sticking with what I know, and one day, I'll get a championship with it.

But, that's why I'm never in a "neep help with hitting" thread giving advice, right?
12/8/2010 12:35 PM
THAT would be high comedy.
12/8/2010 12:41 PM
"Yea, I know he can't hit righties OR lefties, but he walks a lot"
12/8/2010 12:42 PM
I tend to build opposite my park's specifications...if I am in a pitcher's park Iknow I can put up solid numbers with only slightly above average pitchers, but I need big time offensive players to score runs...whereas in a hitter's park, I can score easily but need big time pitchers to hold my opponents off the board.
12/8/2010 1:05 PM
All of your teams are better on the road than at home.
You're welcome.
12/8/2010 1:12 PM
I have a picher who has a 0 for range and 34 for glove. I the minors he has 5,562 innings wth 38 PB's. At the Ml level he has 2,268 innings with 11 passed balls. I have compared him to guys with much better numbers and I have seen no big difference.
12/12/2010 12:54 PM
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