Hi, I was hoping to get some feedback on my latest draft. I'm sorta new to HBD, this being my 5th-6th draft.

I had a lot of high picks, the #3, #23, #33, #43, #59 and #91.

I had 14 HS / 14 College scouting.

#3 - RF / Steve O'Connor

Event	Season	Height	Weight	OV	RA	GL	AS	AA	PC	DU	HE	SP	PA	TP	MK
Current	-	6-1	175	75	52	34	58	41	13	83	70	93	67	73	65
Projected	-	6-1	192	91	66	46	63	59	13	86	86	100	81	73	75
Time of Draft	18	6-1	175	75	52	34	58	41	13	83	70	93	67	73	65

Event	Season	CN	PW	LH	RH	BE	BR	BU	PP	ST	CT	LH	RH	VE	GB	P1	P2	P3	P4	P5
Current	-	72	67	52	69	76	71	21	45	19	9	13	13	12	32	58	0	0	0	0
Projected	-	89	73	63	87	96	90	30	54	23	9	13	18	19	31	63	0	0	0	0
Time of Draft	18	72	67	52	69	76	71	21	45	19	9	13	13	12	32	58	0	0	0	0

#23 - RP / Kerry Karros

Event	Season	Height	Weight	OV	RA	GL	AS	AA	PC	DU	HE	SP	PA	TP	MK
Current	-	6-2	196	51	0	33	58	38	10	55	66	56	35	28	88
Projected	-	6-2	207	77	0	55	69	55	10	65	73	56	57	28	93
Time of Draft	18	6-2	196	51	0	33	58	38	10	55	66	56	35	28	88

Event	Season	CN	PW	LH	RH	BE	BR	BU	PP	ST	CT	LH	RH	VE	GB	P1	P2	P3	P4	P5
Current	-	13	0	18	14	15	12	43	63	30	64	39	43	69	69	71	59	39	0	0
Projected	-	20	6	33	28	25	14	64	65	41	93	60	57	88	92	97	75	59	0	0
Time of Draft	18	13	0	18	14	15	12	43	63	30	64	39	43	69	69	71	59	39	0	0

#33 - LF / Matty Belinda

General & Fielding Ratings
Event	Season	Height	Weight	OV	RA	GL	AS	AA	PC	DU	HE	SP	PA	TP	MK
Current	-	5-10	186	43	51	48	45	33	1	51	85	62	54	6	30
Projected	-	6-1	215	74	66	66	50	45	1	80	100	68	73	6	40
Time of Draft	18	5-10	186	43	51	48	45	33	1	51	85	62	54	6	30

Event	Season	CN	PW	LH	RH	BE	BR	BU	PP	ST	CT	LH	RH	VE	GB	P1	P2	P3	P4	P5
Current	-	63	33	34	55	38	34	39	59	14	6	0	0	16	35	50	0	0	0	0
Projected	-	100	36	50	92	56	65	74	72	20	6	0	0	25	37	60	0	0	0	0
Time of Draft	18	63	33	34	55	38	34	39	59	14	6	0	0	16	35	50	0	0	0	0

#43 - 3B / Clarence Beulac

Event	Season	Height	Weight	OV	RA	GL	AS	AA	PC	DU	HE	SP	PA	TP	MK
Current	-	5-10	168	52	56	53	69	56	0	69	60	82	45	42	49
Projected	-	5-11	179	71	61	73	76	70	0	85	73	82	64	42	53
Time of Draft	18	5-10	168	52	56	53	69	56	0	69	60	82	45	42	49

Event	Season	CN	PW	LH	RH	BE	BR	BU	PP	ST	CT	LH	RH	VE	GB	P1	P2	P3	P4	P5
Current	-	30	52	38	36	41	48	44	60	18	3	9	10	15	29	60	0	0	0	0
Projected	-	44	68	55	55	55	61	61	61	22	10	19	10	19	39	75	0	0	0	0
Time of Draft	18	30	52	38	36	41	48	44	60	18	3	9	10	15	29	60	0	0	0	0

#53 - CF / Ralph Ward

Event	Season	Height	Weight	OV	RA	GL	AS	AA	PC	DU	HE	SP	PA	TP	MK
Current	-	5-9	171	41	74	52	49	38	14	49	92	89	54	98	50
Projected	-	5-10	182	71	87	85	58	66	25	85	100	89	74	98	61
Time of Draft	18	5-9	171	40	74	52	49	38	14	49	92	89	54	98	50

Event	Season	CN	PW	LH	RH	BE	BR	BU	PP	ST	CT	LH	RH	VE	GB	P1	P2	P3	P4	P5
Current	-	42	0	43	25	44	54	56	53	19	11	9	8	0	16	40	0	0	0	0
Projected	-	62	6	65	42	60	81	88	56	21	17	16	11	0	14	49	0	0	0	0
Time of Draft	18	41	0	42	24	44	53	55	53	19	11	9	8	0	16	40	0	0	0	0

#93 - SP / Timothy Workman

Event	Season	Height	Weight	OV	RA	GL	AS	AA	PC	DU	HE	SP	PA	TP	MK
Current	-	5-11	209	45	23	5	11	47	9	19	72	45	53	26	77
Projected	-	5-11	221	70	28	5	16	69	21	22	77	52	70	26	91
Time of Draft	18	5-11	209	44	23	5	11	47	9	19	72	45	53	26	77

Event	Season	CN	PW	LH	RH	BE	BR	BU	PP	ST	CT	LH	RH	VE	GB	P1	P2	P3	P4	P5
Current	-	15	9	12	7	9	2	43	64	59	49	38	38	31	68	66	50	29	21	16
Projected	-	32	10	25	9	9	4	77	72	81	81	63	64	42	81	78	69	52	27	22
Time of Draft	18	15	9	12	7	9	2	42	64	59	48	37	37	31	68	65	50	28	21	16

Also, what can I expect to get out of RP, Kerry Karros? I was thinking he would end up being more of a middle relief innings eater, with an ERA around 3.50-4.0. He looks great except for his splits

Just my opinion

1. If he reaches his projections, and it looks like he should, he looks like an All-Star caliber player. maybe even an MVP in his future. At #3 pick, it looks like you got a good one.

2. Won't reach his proj  in CT or P1. Marginal MLer.

3. Should reach his proj, but that still won't make hinm a decent ML 3B.

4. Won't get to GL or BR proj. Marginal.
 
5.Even if he reached all his projs(which he won't), a LR at best.

I wouldn't grade your draft highly.

You drafted one player who is a contributor to a championship team and that's O'Connor who will be a very good player, though probably not an award winning type.  No one else is more than AAAA types (25-30 men).  In a typical draft with those picks, I'd expect at least one or two roster fillers or weak regulars with 23/33/43/53 picks. 

Assuming they reach their projections, I have to disagree.  Perhaps it depends on what world you're in, but I could find a spot for 5 of those guys in the majors.  O'Conner is a clear starter at a corner outfield spot.  Karros gets a spot in the middle of the bullpen.  Belinda can take the other corner outfield spot as a table-setter.  Beulac is probably the one AAA player here.  Ward can play 2B or CF (depending on handedness) and steal 80 bases.  And Workman is a serviceable long reliever, although he may bounce between the ML and AAA.  If you could trade in his 22 pitch for one in the 90s, I'd make him a starter.

IOW, I'd be happy with that draft.

I second everything mhulshult said, with one caveat.... in order to justify a table-setter at a COF spot, you had better have a slugger up the middle somewhere.

Posted by torrone on 1/5/2011 12:05:00 PM (view original):
Just my opinion

1. If he reaches his projections, and it looks like he should, he looks like an All-Star caliber player. maybe even an MVP in his future. At #3 pick, it looks like you got a good one.

2. Won't reach his proj  in CT or P1. Marginal MLer.

3. Should reach his proj, but that still won't make hinm a decent ML 3B.

4. Won't get to GL or BR proj. Marginal.
 
5.Even if he reached all his projs(which he won't), a LR at best.

Why the certainty that the projections won't be met?

Posted by mhulshult on 1/5/2011 3:45:00 PM (view original):

Posted by torrone on 1/5/2011 12:05:00 PM (view original):
Just my opinion

1. If he reaches his projections, and it looks like he should, he looks like an All-Star caliber player. maybe even an MVP in his future. At #3 pick, it looks like you got a good one.

2. Won't reach his proj  in CT or P1. Marginal MLer.

3. Should reach his proj, but that still won't make hinm a decent ML 3B.

4. Won't get to GL or BR proj. Marginal.
 
5.Even if he reached all his projs(which he won't), a LR at best.

Why the certainty that the projections won't be met?

Some of the low makeup scores indicate to me as well that the projections won't be met for most of the guys beyond his first two picks.

Your #3 pick looks like a star, but I wouldn't expect his arm to play in RF, he's probably a ML LFer... which based on his skill set should be totally fine, just my take on him.

Beyond that I hate taking a RP in the first round unless he's a complete and total stud, based on his splits I don't think #23 ever reaches your bullpen.

Beyond that a bunch of OK, not great players. You might get contributors, but I doubt any of them make an Allstar team. I'd be a little disappointed if I had so many high picks and this was all that I got.

If those were my top 6 picks in most drafts, I dont imagine I'd think I drafted poorly, however: At #23, Id usually expect some better talent to be available.

The #3 overall guy will be strong, year in year out All Star, and a great selection at #3 (although I dont know that he will have the power numbers to consistently compete for an MVP award) - Grade A

The #23 P, Im not enamored with his splits, but he should play well as a spot starter / long reliever and give you quality innings through his arbitration years - Grade C+

I am much more a fan of the #33 selection, who could be a nice, and inexpensive role player, though I doubt he would be worth much after his second arb year - Grade B

43/53/93 - Im not very high on Beaulic, although Ward should be an average to above average bench player, and Workman can eat up some innings.  Id likely keep them around for their pre arbitration years as well.  Grade - B

If these projections are accurate (which is iffy with a 14 scouting), you did well for your 5th or 6th draft, although it also depends on the quality of the draft pool.  Other than possibly finding an upgrade for the #23 slot (which may not have been possible, or viewable due to your scouting), theres nothing negative to take away from this.

 

 

This is a very average draft.  The high points are getting the MVP-quality bat at 3, and the valuable bench player at 53.  The 3 picks in between range from mildly disappointing (the reliever at 23 is a nice middle innings workhorse, but not really good enough to pitch high leverage innings; the LF at 33 is OK platoon player, I suppose, but has no power at all...) to brutal (43 can't play in the majors).

Thanks for the feedback guys, it was my first year with this team so I could only max out at 14 Col/HS scouting. Which bummed me out because I had so many high picks. I looked at the players selected around my #23 pick and to be honest I really didnt miss out on much talent. Probably because my scouting budget wasnt very high, neither was many teams in the draft, the highest scouting budget being 18 Col and 14 HS.

I agree with alot of the above points, #3 will be an absolute stud, 92 eye, 100 speed and 90 base running (projected) along with solid contact/power/splits he will be an animal.

#23 could really go either way, but with his high makeup (93) I expect him to develop fully.

at #33 I think he could be a ML contributor even coming off the bench, the rest of my picks will probably end up being border line ML'ers or ML bench players.

That RP at #23 was a bad pick. There was probably much better talent available. I'd say 4.50 ERA. Not what you want that high in the draft. You should be able to get a plus player there.

I dont think he was, 16.2 IP with 0 ERA. He will be an inning eater once he fully develops

Posted by nauds3000 on 1/10/2011 8:01:00 AM (view original):
I dont think he was, 16.2 IP with 0 ERA. He will be an inning eater once he fully develops

You certainly cannot project future major league success based on 17 innings pitched in the minor leagues.

And any high durability / high stamina RP can be an inning eater.  It's the quality of the innings that he's eating that's the concern.