Should this player be a Free Agent next season? Topic

zbrent716
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Pro Years: 6 ML Years: 5
Years w/ Team: 0 No-Trade Clause: N
40-Man Roster: Y Playoff Roster: Y
Trading Block: N Spring Invite: N

He is currently in AAA. The 5 for ML Years is actually 5 years, 180 days. His multi-year contract expires at the end of this season.

If you think there is any other relevant information, ask and I will provide it.

So, do you think he should be a FA next season? Why or why not?
1/10/2011 4:40 PM
mhulshult
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I don't see why he shouldn't be.  Arbitration years were bought out by a LT contract.  That contract is up.  He should be a free agent.  Having him in AAA shouldn't change that.
1/10/2011 4:57 PM
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If he's currently on an expiring ML contract, then yes.  All other information is irrelevant.

1/10/2011 4:57 PM
overeasy
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Even if it's a ML contract, he is not going to add ML service time unless on the ML roster, so it seems like he would be a year 5 Arbitration player next season if he remains in AAA and on the 40-Man roster.
1/10/2011 5:56 PM
zbrent716
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Posted by tecwrg on 1/10/2011 4:57:00 PM (view original):

If he's currently on an expiring ML contract, then yes.  All other information is irrelevant.

I'm nearly certain that I've had really old pitchers who were technically on ML contracts and ended up clearing waivers and being sent to the minors to eat innings, who then ended up not retiring by instead sticking around as minor leaguers.

Your response is also way too broad, as IFA with expiring ML contracts remain in the minor leagues all the time. 

Finally, here's the argument for his not being a FA - 

Minor league FA are treated differently than ML FA. With minor leaguers, you can avoid FA indefinitely, even after 6 years, merely by keeping them on the 40-man roster. This player is now a minor leaguer, so conceivably keeping him on the 40-man could work the same way.
1/10/2011 5:56 PM
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Couldn't you just check by going to the FA page, and changing the year to next year?
1/10/2011 5:59 PM
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Posted by zbrent716 on 1/10/2011 5:56:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 1/10/2011 4:57:00 PM (view original):

If he's currently on an expiring ML contract, then yes.  All other information is irrelevant.

I'm nearly certain that I've had really old pitchers who were technically on ML contracts and ended up clearing waivers and being sent to the minors to eat innings, who then ended up not retiring by instead sticking around as minor leaguers.

Your response is also way too broad, as IFA with expiring ML contracts remain in the minor leagues all the time. 

Finally, here's the argument for his not being a FA - 

Minor league FA are treated differently than ML FA. With minor leaguers, you can avoid FA indefinitely, even after 6 years, merely by keeping them on the 40-man roster. This player is now a minor leaguer, so conceivably keeping him on the 40-man could work the same way.
But he's got 5+ years of ML. 

In real life he's used up his options and becomes a FA.  In HBD...arb, no?
1/10/2011 7:14 PM
AlCheez
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No questions asked, he should be a free agent.  5 years, 180 days should go to 6 at rollover.  A player with 6 years ML service time and no current contract is a free agent - if this guy winds up not being one for some reasons, there's a loophole in the system that needs to be closed.

1/10/2011 7:26 PM
MikeT23
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I declare this to be a trick question because he wasn't linked. 
1/10/2011 8:53 PM
zbrent716
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Posted by dedelman on 1/10/2011 7:14:00 PM (view original):
Posted by zbrent716 on 1/10/2011 5:56:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 1/10/2011 4:57:00 PM (view original):

If he's currently on an expiring ML contract, then yes.  All other information is irrelevant.

I'm nearly certain that I've had really old pitchers who were technically on ML contracts and ended up clearing waivers and being sent to the minors to eat innings, who then ended up not retiring by instead sticking around as minor leaguers.

Your response is also way too broad, as IFA with expiring ML contracts remain in the minor leagues all the time. 

Finally, here's the argument for his not being a FA - 

Minor league FA are treated differently than ML FA. With minor leaguers, you can avoid FA indefinitely, even after 6 years, merely by keeping them on the 40-man roster. This player is now a minor leaguer, so conceivably keeping him on the 40-man could work the same way.
But he's got 5+ years of ML. 

In real life he's used up his options and becomes a FA.  In HBD...arb, no?
He'll have 6 years after rollover, since the 5 years is really 5 years, 180 days. This guy actually has 2 options remaining (before rollover) which is why he was able to be demoted to AAA.
1/10/2011 8:57 PM
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