This guy just chose to return for his senior year.  Holy crap.

Holy Crap is right. Nice job Bro.

Serbians highly value education, eh? 

Pff, the guy can barely rebound!

Hey, if Andrew Luck stayed, anyone can stay.  Maybe he likes american college girls??

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Alabama in Smith had that guy come back as a junior when he was already over 1030. Biggest RNG gift ever!

I'm convinced he's staying because he's sure that if he gets over 1000 even corn's coaching can't limit Ok St to a first round NT exit...

Posted by pablo_ohio on 1/19/2011 2:30:00 PM (view original):
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Alabama in Smith had that guy come back as a junior when he was already over 1030. Biggest RNG gift ever!

thats a sick player. i havent played d1 or know how the draft works, but from the ppg, he should have been taken 2 seasons ago, no?

he must have had the right personality.

tianyi - i believe stats have been removed 100% from the decision to go early or not - they still affect draft order though, i believe. 

the more cases i see like this, the more i wonder if we all should be paying more attention to personalities. in the last 3 seasons, i had 2 great players who never did **** leave as freshman. total waste of money. but at the same time, this guy who shocked me by sticking around for his junior year, and then again senior year. i wasn't surprised he stayed to be a senior honestly - there was no way he woulda stayed for his junior year, IMO, unless he had that magical personality trait that makes guys stick around. 

the personality thing just makes such a big difference. i like mayfield (the senior who stayed) as an incoming recruit only marginally better than the 2 freshman who left. but instead of contributing very little, he is now the #1 scorer, #1 rebounder, and #1 shot blocker in UK history. combine that with the #1 fg% and the #6 ft% and i am not sure you could really get any more productive than that? so i would say he was roughly 10 to 100 times more useful than the 2 freshman put together... but i had no expectation of that whatsoever. so seems to me i might be missing something by not paying more attention to personalities...

Posted by pablo_ohio on 1/19/2011 2:30:00 PM (view original):
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Alabama in Smith had that guy come back as a junior when he was already over 1030. Biggest RNG gift ever!

Equally crazy is that he came back after his sophomore year, already rated 1015, and after winning a national championship.  

Brian McCarl has clearly made me a genius :)

And here I am losing 750-rated players.  Oy.

I think LM2 considers certain eval statements (maybe psych tests, too?) to indicate a clear willingness to stay longer.  Not sure if anyone ever followed up with him to get specific values to covet.

Posted by jskenner on 1/20/2011 1:03:00 PM (view original):
I think LM2 considers certain eval statements (maybe psych tests, too?) to indicate a clear willingness to stay longer.  Not sure if anyone ever followed up with him to get specific values to covet.

I just tried that, used the psych evals for the first time. Signed a pf who was perfect in everything to indicate he would stay.

He just left early after a soph season in which he averaged 5.5 ppg on 43% shooting.

I won't be using the psych eval again.

I've got a guy on my Duke team in Tark who has an overall rating of 971 entering the Conference Tournament.  Scary thing is, he's only a Sophomore.  I'd say he's got about a 0.00001% chance of coming back for his Junior season.  Paul Hodges, if anyone's curious.

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Came back for his junior year.