Trade Worth on different types of Pitchers Topic

Let's use OVR for simplicity.  Is a SP with an OVR of 75 worth "more" in a trade negotiation than a RP of OVR 75??

Obviously the difference would be stamina and how many innings they will contribute to the season total....so with most things being equal and disregarding each teams need on the staff...would a higher STA create more worth on a similarly rated player OVR?
3/4/2011 11:31 AM
That really can't be answered with vague details like that.    In short, we have to assume the RP is the better pitcher but will give you less innnings.   So the questions becomes "Quality or quantity?"     So then the value is determined by the rest of your team.

But, assuming the SP isn't one of those crappy SP with 30/90 DUR/STM and 38/41 splits, you're trading two BL pitchers based on individuals needs.  No one should object.
3/4/2011 11:43 AM
Speaking generically, I will note that all pitchers (whether RP or SP) use the same formula to determine OVR. And that fomula incorporates DUR/STA (i.e. how many innings he can pitch).

As such, if an RP and an SP have identical ratings but for the DUR/STA, the SP has the higher OVR and is worth "more" than the RP, simply becacuse of the additional innings at itentical effectiveness

So, going the other way, if an SP and an RP have identical OVRs, the RP by definition has to be more "effective" than the SP, with the SP making up the gap by being able to pitch more innings.

In terms of trade value, assuming that OVR was an effective calculation of total player skill (most would mostly yes, but with some glaring exceptions), then an SP and an RP with the same OVR should have the "same" value, and in trading, you are deciding between more effective for less innings (RP) or less effective for more innings (SP)

and note I use the OVR as a way to ensure the players being compared are somewhat similar because oboviously, even if a SP could throw every inning all season (100/100 DUR/STA) he has no worth if he can't be effective (bad splits and pitches). And the same goes for an RP who never gives up a hit, but can only pitch 1 IP a season). So the trade-off between effectiveness and innings has a limit
3/4/2011 1:02 PM
Did you just say what I said, in a long-winded way, or did you refute what I said?
3/4/2011 2:22 PM
I answered his questions with my opinions.

I'm not even sure if I read your post
3/4/2011 2:31 PM
Well, it seems like you repeated what I said.   But, because your post was, let's say "lengthy", I thought maybe you were refuted my post.   I just didn't see how.
3/4/2011 2:36 PM
We just had this thread and the clear concensus is that "NO. HELL. NO." are SPs with the same OVR worth as much as RPs.
3/4/2011 2:38 PM
No, there was no clear consensus.   And that was a specific situation where a vet traded with a n00b.
3/4/2011 2:44 PM
Can MikeT and booger come to a clear consensus on how to spell the word "consensus"?  That's what I want to know.
3/4/2011 2:57 PM
I think I'll just keep spelling it properly if it's all the same to you.
3/4/2011 3:08 PM
The RP is more effective.  The SP will pitch more innings.  An RP with an OVR of 75 is probably a rarer commodity, but ultimately their values depend on the context of team needs.
3/4/2011 5:40 PM
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