Minor League Demands Topic

What is likely to be the difference in contract demands for a arb-eligible player at the minor league level that is on the 40 versus off the 40?
4/7/2011 8:53 AM (edited)
I wouldn't think that would make any difference at all.
4/7/2011 8:23 AM
Is there any way to tell which players on minor league rosters that have at least six years pro experience (and that are not on the 40) are going to ask for a major league salary (as a free agent) next season?  Some show up on the free agency report under major league - just didn't know if this will cover all of them.
4/7/2011 8:52 AM
I would guess that it's based on OVR rating.  I don't pay too much attention to that because if I see them as ML potential and can possibly play a role on my ML roster, I keep them on the 40.  If they're not, then I don't really care about them.
4/7/2011 9:00 AM
Does keeping them on the 40 ever prevent them for asking for demanding major league cash?
4/7/2011 9:03 AM
In they're on the 40 and in the minors on a minor league contract, they will roll to the next season on another minor league contract.
4/7/2011 9:05 AM
This seems like a lot of concern over minor league roster filler...
4/7/2011 9:14 AM
Posted by tecwrg on 4/7/2011 9:05:00 AM (view original):
In they're on the 40 and in the minors on a minor league contract, they will roll to the next season on another minor league contract.
But this is not the case if they are arbitration eligible, right?  I've got guys that are showing up on the arb report for next season that are at the minor league level and that are on the 40.
4/7/2011 9:41 AM
Posted by opie100 on 4/7/2011 8:54:00 AM (view original):
Is there any way to tell which players on minor league rosters that have at least six years pro experience (and that are not on the 40) are going to ask for a major league salary (as a free agent) next season?  Some show up on the free agency report under major league - just didn't know if this will cover all of them.
The cut-off the seperates the guys asking for ML contracts as opposed to MILB contracts is 60 overall.
4/7/2011 9:44 AM
Posted by opie100 on 4/7/2011 9:41:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 4/7/2011 9:05:00 AM (view original):
In they're on the 40 and in the minors on a minor league contract, they will roll to the next season on another minor league contract.
But this is not the case if they are arbitration eligible, right?  I've got guys that are showing up on the arb report for next season that are at the minor league level and that are on the 40.
If they stay in the minors the whole season and due not accrue enough ML service time they will not go to arb even if they are showing up on your arb report for the future season. The arb report for future seasons is assuming that they will have enough service time.
4/7/2011 9:47 AM
Posted by opie100 on 4/7/2011 9:41:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 4/7/2011 9:05:00 AM (view original):
In they're on the 40 and in the minors on a minor league contract, they will roll to the next season on another minor league contract.
But this is not the case if they are arbitration eligible, right?  I've got guys that are showing up on the arb report for next season that are at the minor league level and that are on the 40.
If they are indeed arb eligible next season, then they'll be arb'd.

The arb report is sometimes misleading.  It will show guys as being arb eligible next season under  the assumption that they will have accrued enough ML service this season to put them over 3 years.  If they are in the minors, on a minor league contract, on the 40, and have not accrued 3 seasons of ML service time, then they'll renew on another minor league contract.
4/7/2011 9:51 AM
Posted by strikeout26 on 4/7/2011 9:44:00 AM (view original):
Posted by opie100 on 4/7/2011 8:54:00 AM (view original):
Is there any way to tell which players on minor league rosters that have at least six years pro experience (and that are not on the 40) are going to ask for a major league salary (as a free agent) next season?  Some show up on the free agency report under major league - just didn't know if this will cover all of them.
The cut-off the seperates the guys asking for ML contracts as opposed to MILB contracts is 60 overall.
Thx for responses.  How does this 60 overall threshold interact with the 40 man roster - i.e. if they are on the 40, but are 70 overall (after 6+ years of pro service) will they continue only demanding minor league salary?  In other words, does having a player in the minors and on the 40-man (without enough BL time for arb) guarantee they won't ask for BL salary?
4/7/2011 1:39 PM (edited)
If a guy is on your 40, in the minors, and never getting ML service time, they never become a free agent or arb-eligible, so they just roll over at a new minor league contract.
4/7/2011 1:40 PM
Got it - thank you. What if they have BL service time but not enough to be arb eligible (and are now back down in the minors)?
4/7/2011 1:43 PM
The same as what AlCheez just said.  They roll over to a new minor league contract.
4/7/2011 1:45 PM
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