http://www.whatifsports.com/x.asp?r=233572&u=/HBD/Pages/Popups/Boxscore.aspx?gid=37604907

In this game (which I thankfully won), we got thrown out at home 3 times. The players who were thrown out were Glynn (75 baserunning), White (67 baserunning) and Finley (71 baserunning).  My 3B coach has has an 87 baserunning IQ.  My baserunning aggressiveness is 3 - Average.

With those settings and ratings, there is no way 3 guys should get thrown out at the plate in the same game.  I feel like there's about 1 guy thrown out at the plate every other game, way way more often than should be.  That's why I spent so much on a 3B coach, but it hasn't paid off.

So that's my HBD pet peeve.

Maybe the OF's all had 100 arm 100 accuracy?

What's your base running aggressiveness setting?  If you're getting thrown out that frequently on the bases, maybe you need to reel it back a notch.

68/57, and 52/59 twice.  And this happens ALL the time.

As far as I know, the 3rd base coach's baserunning IQ only affects development; it doesn't have an effect on in-game strategy. Unless I'm mistaken, only bench coaches have any effect on in-game strategy.

And the bench coach in this case is pretty awful with baserunning (22) - maybe that's the ticket.

Tec - remedial reading for you.

Carn - are you saying that the bench coach's br IQ is what determines whether a player tries to score from 3rd. Just doesn't feel right.

Personally I think it's an engine problem. It seems to happen to my opponents a lot too. Way more often than in real life.

Mike you just need to use my trick. Never read the PBP

Trying to score is a factor of BR, aggressiveness setting and fielders.   I don't believe your bench/3B coach has anything to do with it.

Coaches influence development, not game play.  The only exception that I know of is the BC, who runs the team if the manager is ejected.  I assume his strategy rating then comes into play.

So my overall point is that runners are far too aggressive in trying to score from 3rd.  I don't want to turn down baserunning, because I still want guys to go from 1st to 3rd on a single.  But really, it's pretty rare for a guy to get thrown out at the plate.  Of course we see it, but not nearly as often as in HBD. You could watch all 2,430 MLB games in a season and not see 3 guys thrown out at the plate in the same game.

Things you think you'd never see happen all the time in baseball. Jayson Stark makes a pretty good living partly by summarizing hard-to-believe events every week.

postgazette.com/pg/07155/791359-63.stm


And 8/2/05:
YANKEES 7TH: NICHOLS STAYED IN GAME (PLAYING LF); Robertson singled; MEACHAM RAN FOR ROBERTSON; Berra reached on an error by Hulett [Meacham to second, Berra to first]; Henderson singled [Meacham out at home (center to shortstop to catcher), Berra out at home (catcher unassisted)]; Fisk tagged both runners out at the plate; Mattingly flied out to center; 0 R, 2 H, 1 E, 1 LOB. White Sox 3, Yankees 3.

Josh, you don't understand.  It ISN'T supposed to happen to mfahie.  Real life be damned!

Posted by mfahie on 6/12/2011 12:33:00 PM (view original):
So my overall point is that runners are far too aggressive in trying to score from 3rd.  I don't want to turn down baserunning, because I still want guys to go from 1st to 3rd on a single.  But really, it's pretty rare for a guy to get thrown out at the plate.  Of course we see it, but not nearly as often as in HBD. You could watch all 2,430 MLB games in a season and not see 3 guys thrown out at the plate in the same game.

Here's the problem:  "I don't want to turn down baserunning"

You know how to fix the "problem", you have the tools to fix the "problem", you just don't want to do it.

Screw you todd, that's not at all what I said.  I even mentioned it happening equally to my opponents.

And, just to be clear MT, "average" aggressiveness on the basepaths should equal many more runners out at the plate than in RL? That doesn't seem like the normal definition of "average".

Oh and wow, you found something that happened once 6 years ago!  That totally disproves my point.