Can any of the Veterans or Hall of Famers explain why Home Court Advantage drops after the rollover. I went from a B or B- back down to a C+ and it's not like I lost a ton of games this past season. Out of 30 games total I was 24-6, all 6 games were OT losses, and I think I was 3 losses at home, one on the road, and 2 nuetral. If you're winning the majority of games, both at home and on the road, shouldn't Home Court Advantage steadily and gradually go up????

The really short answer is that HCA is borderline retarded.  Hope that helps. 

Home court advantage is maxed at B for D2, C for D3. During rollover, almost all B teams drop to B-, and almost all C team for D3 drop to C-. 

^^^  Right, but it appears courtmagic has already discovered this fact.  I think he was asking more about the "why does HCA randomly drop in the rollover?"  And I've never heard a satisfactory answer to that question. 

How about your fans just aren't as excited as they would be right after the offseason? I think George Mason fans are super excited and cheer the hardest when their bid is on the line, and less so during the first 5 games of the season. 

Here is a back and forth with CS from a couple years ago when my Northwestern team (which at this point has qualified for like 15 straight postseason berths) had a lower HCA than UNC-Asheville.  This was about all I needed to know about the stupidity that is HCA. 

5/18/2010 11:54 AM	jslotman
Sorry to revisit this one more time, but I'm playing UNC-Asheville in an exhibition game today, and despite UNC-Asheville having made exactly one NT in the last 10 seasons, that school's HCA is STILL higher than that of Northwestern. Surely this is a glitch and not UNC-Asheville's actual homecourt advantage, right?
5/19/2010 10:02 AM	Customer Support
Part of the home court advantage is a traditional "fan loyalty" value given to each school. Northwestern is low in that area, which makes it harder to build and maintain that advantage at home.

Posted by jslotman on 6/22/2011 12:56:00 PM (view original):
Here is a back and forth with CS from a couple years ago when my Northwestern team (which at this point has qualified for like 15 straight postseason berths) had a lower HCA than UNC-Asheville.  This was about all I needed to know about the stupidity that is HCA. 

5/18/2010 11:54 AM	jslotman
Sorry to revisit this one more time, but I'm playing UNC-Asheville in an exhibition game today, and despite UNC-Asheville having made exactly one NT in the last 10 seasons, that school's HCA is STILL higher than that of Northwestern. Surely this is a glitch and not UNC-Asheville's actual homecourt advantage, right?
5/19/2010 10:02 AM	Customer Support
Part of the home court advantage is a traditional "fan loyalty" value given to each school. Northwestern is low in that area, which makes it harder to build and maintain that advantage at home.

D1 is completely different than D2 and D3. Baseline prestige works the same way. 

Huh? 

Their explanation makes perfect sense. Even if Duke misses the tournament for the next 3 yrs, their home court advantage (crowd noise, support, etc.) will be bigger than a much less known school, say Alabama A&M. This is what they meant by a built in home court advantage and it's similar to baseline prestige. Bigger and better real life schools have a higher built in HCA and higher baseline prestige. If you accept baseline prestige, then you have to accept the built in "fan loyalty" factor for HCA. 

Posted by tianyi7886 on 6/22/2011 12:12:00 PM (view original):
Home court advantage is maxed at B for D2, C for D3. During rollover, almost all B teams drop to B-, and almost all C team for D3 drop to C-. 

this is not true

Posted by tianyi7886 on 6/22/2011 3:07:00 PM (view original):
Their explanation makes perfect sense. Even if Duke misses the tournament for the next 3 yrs, their home court advantage (crowd noise, support, etc.) will be bigger than a much less known school, say Alabama A&M. This is what they meant by a built in home court advantage and it's similar to baseline prestige. Bigger and better real life schools have a higher built in HCA and higher baseline prestige. If you accept baseline prestige, then you have to accept the built in "fan loyalty" factor for HCA. 

But that doesn't explain why UNC-Asheville had a higher HCA than Northwestern. Northwestern has a much higher baseline prestige than UNC-Asheville, and would be expected to have a higher HCA as well.

In my real life opinion- HCA is not related to prestige.  Indiana has had a strong home crowd even when poor- when I was at Colorado, you saw a decent home crowd off and on depending on the coach/student section leaders, independent to the record.

In the game- I had also understood that home court is more dependent on this season's results than your baseline- so if you're ranked #2 and 11-0, it raises during the year, then resets at the end.

HCA is largely based on W-L records and not necessarily post-season success or team RPI like prestige is.

It's possible for a team to go 27-2 and lose in the first round but still have a higher HCA than a team that goes 20-12 and makes the Final Four.

Posted by professor17 on 6/22/2011 5:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tianyi7886 on 6/22/2011 3:07:00 PM (view original):
Their explanation makes perfect sense. Even if Duke misses the tournament for the next 3 yrs, their home court advantage (crowd noise, support, etc.) will be bigger than a much less known school, say Alabama A&M. This is what they meant by a built in home court advantage and it's similar to baseline prestige. Bigger and better real life schools have a higher built in HCA and higher baseline prestige. If you accept baseline prestige, then you have to accept the built in "fan loyalty" factor for HCA. 

But that doesn't explain why UNC-Asheville had a higher HCA than Northwestern. Northwestern has a much higher baseline prestige than UNC-Asheville, and would be expected to have a higher HCA as well.

Probably because fan loyalty factor doesnt equal to prestige. I have a feeling WIS used something like baseline + school population (or something similar), and Northwestern being only about 6000 students gets a lower fan loyalty factor. 

Posted by Iguana1 on 6/22/2011 5:54:00 PM (view original):
HCA is largely based on W-L records and not necessarily post-season success or team RPI like prestige is.

It's possible for a team to go 27-2 and lose in the first round but still have a higher HCA than a team that goes 20-12 and makes the Final Four.

Getting back to my original question, if what you just said is true (and I tend to believe this also) can someone explain why mine and a lot of other coaches NCA went down than???