NORMALIZATION II ????? Topic

OK, I think the general consenus is that it is the # number that matters, possibly with special attention given to the + number for BA, but what about extra base hits? Is a dead ball era guy whose 25 triples look like 5/100 AB (RL) / 3/100 AB# likely to hit more or less triples than a modern player who hit 12 triples, and has both numbers around 3? And then, do HRs and 2bs follow that same logic? I have had some remarkable triple seasons with '09 Angel Pagan and Deion Sanders (1992?), but have eschewed the dead ball era triples guys because their ratios don't look as good. Was I wrong?
11/28/2011 9:58 AM
HRs definitely follow that logic.

6 HR/100 and 8 HR/100# 
is better than
10 HR/100 and 8 HR/100#

I always assumed that doubles and triples did as well, but I don't pay as much attention to them.
11/28/2011 10:33 AM
The only numbers that matter are the # numbers. Just remember that those numbers are truncated, not rounded.
11/28/2011 11:33 AM
11/28/2011 1:31 PM
so, are we saying that (truncation aside) 10 hrs/100AB(RL), 8 HRs/100 AB# is the same as, say 1915 Gavvy Cravath, or 1918 Babe Ruth? I have always assumed that drafting for HRs is a waste, if dead ball era pitchers are allowed. With 2b and 3bs, there doesn't seem to be the same control mchanisms in place, they are allowed to run free. My experience has been that (in an apprpriate stadium) players will get their 2b and 3b hits. I always drafted based on # ratios being better than RL ratios. I wonder if that is the best, correct way. 1899 Buck Freeman is a perfect example. No one. i suspect, drafts him for his 25 triples.
11/28/2011 1:32 PM
check out the deadball pitchers with bad HR/9# numbers. they still don't give up many HR. their results are closer to raw stats than to normalized stats.
11/28/2011 2:15 PM
Posted by pfattkatt on 11/28/2011 1:32:00 PM (view original):
so, are we saying that (truncation aside) 10 hrs/100AB(RL), 8 HRs/100 AB# is the same as, say 1915 Gavvy Cravath, or 1918 Babe Ruth? I have always assumed that drafting for HRs is a waste, if dead ball era pitchers are allowed. With 2b and 3bs, there doesn't seem to be the same control mchanisms in place, they are allowed to run free. My experience has been that (in an apprpriate stadium) players will get their 2b and 3b hits. I always drafted based on # ratios being better than RL ratios. I wonder if that is the best, correct way. 1899 Buck Freeman is a perfect example. No one. i suspect, drafts him for his 25 triples.
Hitters have more control over doubles and triples than HR.
11/28/2011 2:20 PM
Much more control over 2B/3B than HR

11/28/2011 2:27 PM
Posted by rbow923 on 11/28/2011 2:15:00 PM (view original):
check out the deadball pitchers with bad HR/9# numbers. they still don't give up many HR. their results are closer to raw stats than to normalized stats.
Examples?
11/28/2011 6:08 PM
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