trade etiquette Topic

reino4
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Suppose you're working on a trade with another player , going back and forth and which guys to include the trade, you offer the players the other team demanded thinking you've got a deal,now the other team can't do the deal and wants to think about it. OK, frustrating but maybe he changed his mind. So few days later you restructure the deal to include new players that the other team demands and now he wants to think about it again.
Purposely yanking my chain? Noob move?
12/3/2011 4:04 PM
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The only trade etiquette I ask for (and try to practice) is some sort of response, even if it is that "I'm going to stew on it".  But then, I'm nortoriously slow on pulling the trigger on trades myself in the first place.  At some point, he'll either a) accept it, b) reject it, or c) not react in enough time to suit you.  You can always negotiate with multiple teams and create a deadline, but you can't hold a gun to their head.
12/3/2011 4:15 PM
reino4
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If you give me players A andI B I'll give you player x.
Okay here is A and B.
Well maybe not I have to think about it.
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12/3/2011 4:21 PM
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Thats just negotiations.  You can make a mental note and choose not to deal with people like this.  Until someone hits the accept button I wouldn't count on anything.
12/3/2011 5:16 PM
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It all depends on the context of the TC you're having.    I've said, more than once, "I'd probably take Joe and Bob for Sam" which, to me, meant I'd consider it if he'd do it.   If I said "I"ll take Joe and Bob for Sam", it's a deal if it's offered.

FWIW, that doesn't mean I'm negotiating with someone else.  It just means I'm trying to figure out what it does to me and what it does for you.
12/3/2011 5:24 PM
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I fully admit this was me. And maybe I should have worded it like Mike is saying and next time I will make sure to do that. In this instance I did not and now there are rotten grapes towards me. I understand and have learned my lesson.

I was using it as negotiations as I am talking to more than one team about trading a certain player.
12/4/2011 10:42 PM
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My only rule about trade etiquette, is don't treat me like a fool. If you ask for my 3 future all stars for a generic number 3 starter, a defensively challenged 1b and a throw in - I'm going to reject it and ridicule you.

If you do it more than once I will block you. Largely, because I'm afraid when looking at it on my phone I may inadvertently hit accept.

12/5/2011 9:13 AM
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My rule about trade etiquette is that if I send you an offer, please acknowledge it.  Accept it, reject it, or at least send a trade chat along the lines of "let me think about it for a little while and I'll get back to you".

Nothing bugs me more than sending what I think is a fair offer (or at least an opening offer in what should be a back and forth negotiation) to another owner for a player they are shopping around, offering them the kind of player they seem to indicate that they want in return, and then having the offer sitting out there for days without the offer being acted upon or even acknowledged.
12/5/2011 9:24 AM
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Posted by tecwrg on 12/5/2011 9:24:00 AM (view original):
My rule about trade etiquette is that if I send you an offer, please acknowledge it.  Accept it, reject it, or at least send a trade chat along the lines of "let me think about it for a little while and I'll get back to you".

Nothing bugs me more than sending what I think is a fair offer (or at least an opening offer in what should be a back and forth negotiation) to another owner for a player they are shopping around, offering them the kind of player they seem to indicate that they want in return, and then having the offer sitting out there for days without the offer being acted upon or even acknowledged.
+1
12/5/2011 9:32 AM
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Totally reasonable.  I've found that in better worlds, there seems to be more of this.  Also less of the bogus 3 steaming piles for your future HOF player in the name of "opening negotiations".  I try to start with a fair offer, sometimes even the best offer I can make.  Obviously based on scouting budgets, you can see offers that don't necessarily look that way, but even without the budgets, you can usually tell the bogus ones.  A fair offer indicates you're serious.

Broad point though for me anyway:  the better the world, the better the etiquette.
12/5/2011 9:48 AM
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What about treating the other person like you'd want to be treated in a negotiation?  If you're working on a deal with someone else involving the same players, say so.

This scenario would irritate me:

You:  "I'll give you X and Y for Z"
Me:  "Ok, sounds good"
You:  "Well, maybe not, I'll have to think about it."
Me:  "Dude, you offered me the deal."  

Now, if, instead, they came back with, "I like that deal, but I just heard from someone else regarding players X and Y that may net me more," then I get it.  Still not thrilled about it, but I get it.

If you offer a deal in a trade chat, then want to renege after the other party has agreed just because you changed your mind, at least apologize and admit that you're douche for doing so.
12/5/2011 10:39 AM
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Always skew towards over communication.  At the very least, it'll make a future trade easier, as you know where the other guy is coming from.
12/5/2011 10:55 AM
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I personally like "that would be the best offensive player on your team, but whatever"
12/5/2011 11:08 AM
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That's always true when trading with you.
12/5/2011 12:32 PM
deathinahole
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Exactly!

It's the old saying; just because the package says beef doesn't necessarily mean it's meat.

Just because he's the best offensive player on my team doesn't mean he's good.
12/5/2011 3:58 PM
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