Senior guard leads Naismith OSU to elite eight but can do no more.  Two time National Player of the Year. What skillz

Name	Yr.	Pos.	A	SPD	REB	DE	BLK	LP	PE	BH	P	WE	ST	DU	FT	TOT
James Izaguirre	Sr.	PG	100	100	65	99	41	88	98	99	92	99	97	70	B	1048

Naismith Oregon State career records

first in points

second in assists (first in human coached era)

sixth in steals (second in human coached era)

Hoe did he stay all 4 years?!?!? What is the cheat code?

wish that I had saved the coach's reply to my phone call - maybe he said something like "this kid is the consummate team player, he cares more about the team than himself or his family, sky's the limit" or something

This is the problem with the EE logic, guards are WAY more likely to stay all 4 years then bigs. A big with equivalent ratings and equivalent stats would almost definitely have left early. In all my seasons the only players I've ever had leave early have been PFs or Cs, I even had a guard lead the nation in scoring as a Junior and he stayed.

I had a guy with an overall of over 1000 at Duke a couple of seasons ago (along with ARomano having one at Miami and Jeffprobst one at Georgia Tech), but I don't remember any of our three having that high of a rating.  What I'm getting at is, 1048 is the highest I've personally seen in quite some time.  I'm sure there have been higher, and probably are as we speak, but that's still VERY impressive.  Too bad he's "only" got a 41 SB rating as a PG or he would REALLY be a stud, huh (sarcasm)?  :^)

The guy at Miami is at 1041, so not far off

Posted by emy1013 on 3/17/2012 1:08:00 PM (view original):
I had a guy with an overall of over 1000 at Duke a couple of seasons ago (along with ARomano having one at Miami and Jeffprobst one at Georgia Tech), but I don't remember any of our three having that high of a rating.  What I'm getting at is, 1048 is the highest I've personally seen in quite some time.  I'm sure there have been higher, and probably are as we speak, but that's still VERY impressive.  Too bad he's "only" got a 41 SB rating as a PG or he would REALLY be a stud, huh (sarcasm)?  :^)

James Rockwell of Miami in Knight was an 1120, I believe

Posted by kmasonbx on 3/17/2012 12:58:00 PM (view original):
This is the problem with the EE logic, guards are WAY more likely to stay all 4 years then bigs. A big with equivalent ratings and equivalent stats would almost definitely have left early. In all my seasons the only players I've ever had leave early have been PFs or Cs, I even had a guard lead the nation in scoring as a Junior and he stayed.

I'm definitely on this bandwagon as I've observed the same thing.  All my EE's have been non-guards (have had some SF EE's, too), what's up with that?

Posted by backboy13 on 3/17/2012 1:51:00 PM (view original):

Posted by emy1013 on 3/17/2012 1:08:00 PM (view original):
I had a guy with an overall of over 1000 at Duke a couple of seasons ago (along with ARomano having one at Miami and Jeffprobst one at Georgia Tech), but I don't remember any of our three having that high of a rating.  What I'm getting at is, 1048 is the highest I've personally seen in quite some time.  I'm sure there have been higher, and probably are as we speak, but that's still VERY impressive.  Too bad he's "only" got a 41 SB rating as a PG or he would REALLY be a stud, huh (sarcasm)?  :^)

James Rockwell of Miami in Knight was an 1120, I believe

Damn, that's pretty close to a perfect player.

Posted by jdno on 3/17/2012 2:51:00 PM (view original):

Posted by kmasonbx on 3/17/2012 12:58:00 PM (view original):
This is the problem with the EE logic, guards are WAY more likely to stay all 4 years then bigs. A big with equivalent ratings and equivalent stats would almost definitely have left early. In all my seasons the only players I've ever had leave early have been PFs or Cs, I even had a guard lead the nation in scoring as a Junior and he stayed.

I'm definitely on this bandwagon as I've observed the same thing.  All my EE's have been non-guards (have had some SF EE's, too), what's up with that?

In my small sample size, I have had 13 post players drafted and only 4 guards.  And I distinictly remembering having guards get shut out of the draft that I felt definitely should have been drafted, whereas I have also had post players get drafted when I was really surprised by it.   So just like in real life, the NBA favors tall guys (and good times)?

I do think bigs go more unexpectantly.  They seem to have a proclivity to leave when they shouldn't (at least based on ratings in comparison to other players).  Out of my 13 post players, 5 went early and one was a juco.  So 5/12 is 41.7% early rate.   However, 2 of them had absolutely no business leaving at all. 

As for the guards, 2 out of the 4 went early.  So that is a 50% rate. However, both SHOULD have left.  I knew going into the season I was losing them.  

The numbers are wayyyyy too small of a sample size to really get any feeling from them, but I thought I would throw them out there for the kicks and giggles.

I've had guards and bigs go early, but someone had a thread with rather compelling data showing a big lean in toward post players in EE compared to real life.  Whatever skills are being valued, they should adjust the weighting to get more balance.