The OTAT is a progressive that started with the 1901 season and moves forward one season at a time. We are about to start the 1912 season. Selected All Timers were added to the rookie class each season from 1901-1910. The All Timers started with their WIS rookie season as well.  For example, in 1901 all time greats whose WIS rookie season was 1921, 1931, 1941, 1951 etc. were added, in 1902 players from 1922, 1932, 1942, 1952 etc. were added and so on. The last season for the addition of all time players was 1910 so the league is now a straight progressive league with the upcoming season being 1912, the 11th season. However most of the all-time players have not yet retired so there is a very strong group of undrafted players who will be available in addition to the 1912 rookies. As all time players reach the end of their career, they will be available again during their real life WIS rookie season, i.e a 1921 player added to the 1901 season will be available again as a rookie when we reach 1921.In the case where a player played more than 20 years, he will be considered to have retired the season before his real life rookie season . This rule will first come into play for the 1921 season.

The 1910 season was the last season in which all time stars were added. Beginning in 1911, only players whose WIS rookie season was during the current season will be added.

The opening in this league is for the Pittsburgh Pirates who currently have a 48-97 (.331) record. The current owner has decided to reduce his WIS commitments.If interested, I will give you immediate access to the league's private forumThe current owner has already posted keepers for the team but those are of course subject to change by a new owner. We have 17 games left in the season, not all owners have yet posted keepers, and it will be a couple of weeks before the 1912 draft starts.

Following is the keeper list posted by the current owner of the Pirate's franchise. As noted above, this keeper list is subject to change by a new owner.

Pittsburgh Pirates

Need 4

Keepers:
C Roger Bresnahan 12
C Smoky Burgess 52
1B Orlando Cepeda 62
1B Mark McGwire 92
2B Willie Randolph 82
3B George Kell 52
3B Robin Ventura 92
SS Bobby Grich 72
OF Larry Doby 52
OF Juan Gonzalez 92
OF Babe Herman 32
OF Tony Phillips 92
OF Pedro Guerrero 82
OF Jim Wynn 72

Pitchers:
John Smoltz 92
Ray Collins 12
Kevin Brown 92
Terry Forster 82
Orel Hershiser 92
Willie Mitchell 12
Joe Benz 12

DL Tony Oliva (73), Tom L. Hughes (15), Rick Reuschel (84)

Cuts: Frankie Hayes, Eddie Stanky, George McQuiilan

Following are the actual 1912 batting statistics for the current Pirates roster:

Actual Statistics (projected to a 162 game season)
Season Outlook - 1 Season Ahead
Player	SN	B	G	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	SO	HBP	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	PA	SF	SH
Cepeda, Orlando	1962	R	159	614	103	188	26	1	34	112	36	95	6	10	4	.306	.347	.518	.865	664	7	1
Phillips, Tony	1992	S	159	606	114	167	32	3	10	64	114	93	1	12	10	.276	.387	.388	.775	733	7	5
Ventura, Robin	1992	L	157	592	85	167	38	1	16	93	93	71	0	2	4	.282	.375	.431	.806	694	8	1
Gonzalez, Juan	1992	R	155	584	77	152	24	2	43	109	35	143	5	0	1	.260	.304	.529	.833	632	8	0
Herman, Babe	1932	L	156	607	92	198	40	20	17	92	63	47	0	7	7	.326	.389	.541	.930	676	0	5
Guerrero, Pedro	1982	R	150	575	87	175	27	5	32	100	65	89	5	22	5	.304	.378	.536	.914	652	3	4
Randolph, Willie	1982	R	144	553	85	155	21	4	3	36	75	35	3	16	9	.280	.368	.349	.717	643	2	10
Wynn, Jim	1972	R	154	574	124	157	31	3	25	95	109	105	2	18	7	.273	.389	.470	.860	691	3	2
Doby, Larry	1952	L	147	546	109	150	27	8	34	109	95	117	0	5	2	.276	.383	.541	.924	643	0	2
McGwire, Mark	1992	R	139	467	87	125	22	0	42	104	90	105	5	0	1	.268	.385	.585	.970	571	9	0
Kell, George	1952	R	120	451	55	140	24	2	7	60	48	24	1	0	2	.311	.379	.423	.802	509	0	8
Burgess, Smoky	1952	L	116	391	52	116	28	2	6	59	52	22	1	3	1	.296	.380	.429	.809	447	0	3
Hayes, Frankie	1942	R	81	234	23	58	11	0	2	23	39	49	0	1	1	.248	.355	.320	.675	276	0	3
Bresnahan, Roger	1912	R	51	115	8	38	7	2	1	16	15	10	2	4	10	.333	.419	.463	.882	132	0	0
Stanky, Eddie	1952	R	56	88	14	20	4	0	0	7	20	9	0	0	0	.229	.373	.277	.650	111	0	3
Benz, Joe	1912	R	44	80	3	11	0	1	0	4	1	4	0	0	0	.132	.143	.158	.301	90	0	8
Smoltz, John	1992	R	35	75	7	12	0	0	1	4	6	32	0	0	0	.160	.222	.200	.422	91	0	10
Hershiser, Orel	1992	R	33	68	6	15	5	0	0	5	1	10	0	1	0	.221	.229	.294	.523	76	1	6
Collins, Ray	1912	L	29	70	9	12	1	0	0	2	13	4	1	0	0	.169	.308	.185	.492	87	0	3
Mitchell, Willie	1912	R	31	57	4	6	0	0	0	3	4	2	0	0	0	.113	.175	.113	.289	62	0	1
Forster, Terry	1982	L	56	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000	.000	.000	.000	2	0	0
Pitcher Totals	--	--	228	352	29	56	6	1	1	18	25	52	1	1	0	.159	.216	.190	.406	408	1	28
Hitter Totals	--	--	1944	6997	1115	2006	362	53	272	1079	949	1014	31	100	64	.287	.372	.470	.842	8074	47	47
Totals	--	--	2172	7349	1144	2062	368	54	273	1097	974	1066	32	101	64	.281	.365	.457	.822	8482	48	75

And following are the 1912 pitching statistics for the current Pirates Roster

Actual Statistics (projected to a 162 game season)
Season Outlook - 1 Season Ahead
Player	SN	T	GP	GS	W	L	SV	IP	BFP	H	ER	HR	BB	SO	OAV	WHIP	ERA	HBP	WP	BK
Brown, Kevin	1992	R	35	35	21	11	0	266.0	1108	262	98	11	76	173	.260	1.27	3.32	10	8	2
Benz, Joe	1912	R	44	33	14	18	0	252.0	1020	243	81	5	74	102	.259	1.26	2.90	8	8	0
Smoltz, John	1992	R	35	35	15	12	0	247.0	1021	206	78	17	80	215	.224	1.16	2.85	5	17	1
Collins, Ray	1912	L	29	26	14	9	0	213.0	846	205	60	4	45	87	.256	1.18	2.53	2	0	0
Hershiser, Orel	1992	R	33	33	10	15	0	211.0	910	209	86	15	69	130	.257	1.32	3.67	8	10	0
Mitchell, Willie	1912	L	31	16	5	8	1	174.0	725	158	54	0	59	100	.240	1.25	2.80	7	11	1
Forster, Terry	1982	L	56	0	5	6	3	83.0	349	66	28	3	31	52	.221	1.17	3.04	4	2	0

Hi, I'm the current owner:  this team will have a chance to contend in a few years with Kevin Brown, John Smoltz, and Tom L. Hughes anchoring the rotation.  We also will be in the lottery for the 1st pick in the upcoming draft (at worst 4th pick).

Posted by harrelson on 4/9/2012 12:25:00 AM (view original):
Hi, I'm the current owner:  this team will have a chance to contend in a few years with Kevin Brown, John Smoltz, and Tom L. Hughes anchoring the rotation.  We also will be in the lottery for the 1st pick in the upcoming draft (at worst 4th pick).

Lottery pick will be #2, every round thereafter will be #1

Sent you a site mail

Posted by Husker75 on 4/10/2012 3:27:00 PM (view original):
Sent you a site mail

OK the team is yours. Wilbur Cooper was an excellent first round draft pick by harrelson for the team.