How high to draft a guy with 48 Health Topic

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VicFranco

Projects to 94-69-80-84-69  He should get close. but he projects to 48 Health, too

I have the 25th pick, so he should be gone by then, but I usually get guys I rate #7-#10 with picks in the 17-20 range.  I figure I'll get my 12th or 13th guy on my list at #25.

I have this guy currently as #8, would be higher if he was healthy.

I suppose he could fall to 25, perhaps.

I have pretty decent guys on my list between 9-15.  I'll get one of them.  Would you list this guy above them, hoping he doesn't blow two knees or something.

How much would the 48 Health scare you away from a .300-.310 bat?

It's scaring me some.

If I list him at #18, I'm pretty sure I'll draft a guy higher than him with my #25 pick. 

 I have  PerryAllen  8 or 9 spots below him.  He's a decent corner OF.  Would you take the risk on Franco or get something a bit decent for sure?  BTW, it is a weak bat draft, as you figured.

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6/7/2012 8:26 PM (edited)
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health is the most hit and miss rating out there.  I put very little stock into it.  We have all had great guys with 90+ health go down for season ending injuries, and yet the crappy players with low health never seem to get those injuries.

Then again I believe in having 20 in both training and medical. 
6/7/2012 8:22 PM
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I don't agree with the whole "hit and miss" assertion.

Top 10 pick, make sure he has good health.   After that, pick the best player.
6/7/2012 8:41 PM
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I rate health very highly.  I will not draft a guy at any slot if it projects to lower than 75.  Just too much risk for me to cultivate and develop him through 4 minor league seasons hoping he doesn't hit a huge setback along the way.

I do keep both Training and Medical at or near 20M though, and have been known to sign a free agent for a couple of years with health of 40ish.  He is already projected at this point and I will take the risk then if he is productive enough.
6/7/2012 9:52 PM
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Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Gookie Munro is a good example of low health guys who are quite useful.   With his low DUR and 17 health, I knew he was going to start maybe 100 games and planned for it.    You have a 25 man roster and it's a bad idea to say "Oh no, low health = no way", IMO.
6/7/2012 10:16 PM
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Posted by rangerup on 6/7/2012 9:52:00 PM (view original):
I rate health very highly.  I will not draft a guy at any slot if it projects to lower than 75.  Just too much risk for me to cultivate and develop him through 4 minor league seasons hoping he doesn't hit a huge setback along the way.

I do keep both Training and Medical at or near 20M though, and have been known to sign a free agent for a couple of years with health of 40ish.  He is already projected at this point and I will take the risk then if he is productive enough.
With 20/20 T & M, I think you're missing out on some quality if your low-bar for health is 75.  I'd say that 60-65 is still borderline too conservative.
6/7/2012 10:33 PM
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Depends on if it's a pitcher or a position player. 48 position player health is probably fine provided you can live with the likely hood of a 10-15 day injury once every couple of seasons, 48 health for a pitcher likely means at least one season ending injury along the line.
6/8/2012 6:02 AM
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Posted by tecwrg on 6/7/2012 10:33:00 PM (view original):
Posted by rangerup on 6/7/2012 9:52:00 PM (view original):
I rate health very highly.  I will not draft a guy at any slot if it projects to lower than 75.  Just too much risk for me to cultivate and develop him through 4 minor league seasons hoping he doesn't hit a huge setback along the way.

I do keep both Training and Medical at or near 20M though, and have been known to sign a free agent for a couple of years with health of 40ish.  He is already projected at this point and I will take the risk then if he is productive enough.
With 20/20 T & M, I think you're missing out on some quality if your low-bar for health is 75.  I'd say that 60-65 is still borderline too conservative.
I know I am.  I'm just not willing to take the heartbreak risk of a guy I am counting on going down.  But I do envy those owners that pay big bucks to a 35 health guy and manage to get all year out of him with no injuries.
6/8/2012 5:27 PM
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Posted by rangerup on 6/8/2012 5:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 6/7/2012 10:33:00 PM (view original):
Posted by rangerup on 6/7/2012 9:52:00 PM (view original):
I rate health very highly.  I will not draft a guy at any slot if it projects to lower than 75.  Just too much risk for me to cultivate and develop him through 4 minor league seasons hoping he doesn't hit a huge setback along the way.

I do keep both Training and Medical at or near 20M though, and have been known to sign a free agent for a couple of years with health of 40ish.  He is already projected at this point and I will take the risk then if he is productive enough.
With 20/20 T & M, I think you're missing out on some quality if your low-bar for health is 75.  I'd say that 60-65 is still borderline too conservative.
I know I am.  I'm just not willing to take the heartbreak risk of a guy I am counting on going down.  But I do envy those owners that pay big bucks to a 35 health guy and manage to get all year out of him with no injuries.
Allow me to introduce you to the all-time low-health anomaly, Hall of Famer  Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Bill Hall.
6/8/2012 6:55 PM
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Posted by tecwrg on 6/7/2012 10:33:00 PM (view original):
Posted by rangerup on 6/7/2012 9:52:00 PM (view original):
I rate health very highly.  I will not draft a guy at any slot if it projects to lower than 75.  Just too much risk for me to cultivate and develop him through 4 minor league seasons hoping he doesn't hit a huge setback along the way.

I do keep both Training and Medical at or near 20M though, and have been known to sign a free agent for a couple of years with health of 40ish.  He is already projected at this point and I will take the risk then if he is productive enough.
With 20/20 T & M, I think you're missing out on some quality if your low-bar for health is 75.  I'd say that 60-65 is still borderline too conservative.
rangerup wouldn't touch Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Roger Hosmer with a 10-foot pole; 4 Cy-Youngs & 6 All-Star Appearances by 27 be-damned.
6/8/2012 7:13 PM
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Just depends on your tolerance for pain. I draft, sign and trade for low health guys and once in a while it bites me in the ***.
6/8/2012 9:21 PM
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My feeling falls pretty closely in line with MikeT on this one:  If I'm drafting really high, I worry about health more, because I would rather have less risk with a slighly lower-level All-Star player than high risk (40-50ish health) better player.  But if I'm drafting in the late teens, 20's, 30's, deciding between an all-star that will be on the DL every now and again vs. a guy I'll plug in my lineup and always be looking to replace, or a backup.... that isn't even a question.  I can find those replacement level guys anywhere for little cost.
6/8/2012 9:29 PM
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Posted by Crump123 on 6/8/2012 6:02:00 AM (view original):
Depends on if it's a pitcher or a position player. 48 position player health is probably fine provided you can live with the likely hood of a 10-15 day injury once every couple of seasons, 48 health for a pitcher likely means at least one season ending injury along the line.
+1;  the frequency of career-altering injuries is very different by position.

I would nearly completely disregard the 48 health rating for a COF/1B type, except that he'll miss 20 games or so every other year; they rarely get catastrophic injuries.  For a pitcher I would drop him well down the list depending on who else is on the list; I would expect a 48 health pitcher to have a career-altering injury every several seasons (although you could get lucky), and for an up-the-middle guy I'd drop him a little bit as they seem to get career altering injuries more often than corners do.
6/9/2012 3:56 PM
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Posted by kcden on 6/8/2012 7:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 6/7/2012 10:33:00 PM (view original):
Posted by rangerup on 6/7/2012 9:52:00 PM (view original):
I rate health very highly.  I will not draft a guy at any slot if it projects to lower than 75.  Just too much risk for me to cultivate and develop him through 4 minor league seasons hoping he doesn't hit a huge setback along the way.

I do keep both Training and Medical at or near 20M though, and have been known to sign a free agent for a couple of years with health of 40ish.  He is already projected at this point and I will take the risk then if he is productive enough.
With 20/20 T & M, I think you're missing out on some quality if your low-bar for health is 75.  I'd say that 60-65 is still borderline too conservative.
rangerup wouldn't touch Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Roger Hosmer with a 10-foot pole; 4 Cy-Youngs & 6 All-Star Appearances by 27 be-damned.
I wouldn't draft that guy, no.  I would give him a FA contract though.
6/10/2012 10:50 AM
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