How Do I Maximize This Very Deep Bullpen? Topic

I have assembled a deep bullpen to put my team over the top. Typically, I have my best relievers as SET-UP A, then  SET-UP B, and one long reliever, which I do have and is not included in summary below. I do not care who gets saves, and do not designate a closer. But, it looks like I have four studs, and maybe one guy who should be a closer. Is that too many  SET-UP As? Will I get the most out of my staff? Also, my pitcher settings allow my guys to pitch in any inning. Any suggestions as to the best way to harness all this talent would be greatly appreciated:

  throw DUR HEAL STAM CONT LH  RH  VEL GB  P1  P2 
Pitcher 1 R 88 99 37 86 84 85 34 48 94 72
Pitcher 2 R 77 81 33 81 75 87 38 70 85 75
Pitcher 3 L 77 87 37 95 67 64 26 50 90 66
Pitcher 4 R 47 59 29 73 81 84 54 50 71 66
Pitcher 5 R 66 96 28 82 86 78 87 49 75 77
Pitcher 6 R 34 82 21 92 74 96 81 79 80 71



6/28/2012 12:19 AM
I'd try to trade 1-2 of them. Not enough innings to go around. Good problem to have.
6/28/2012 1:09 AM
Pitchers 1-5 as Setup A. Pitcher 6 as Closer A.

Trade SP 3/4/5 for help with bats, run a modified 2-man rotation with SP 1/2 and a swingman to eat innings.


6/28/2012 2:01 AM
Normally, I avoid closers because they don't get enough innings, but #6 has a low enough DUR/STA that make's him well suited for the role.

#3's splits are the weakest of the bunch.  I'd make him SuB.  Make all the others (#1, #2, #4 and #5) SuA.

And try to deal one of those four SuA's for a comparable LH short reliever for a little more balance in your bullpen.

Will you get the most out of this bullpen?  Probably not, as that's a lot of depth of quality and high DUR/STA.  They'll leave some unused IP's on the table.

One thing to consider . . . make #1 a Tandem-B starter whenever he's at 100%.  You'll maximize his IP's that way.  A little more hands-on work to manage your ptching staff every game, but it might be worth it.
6/28/2012 6:07 AM
What does your SP look like?  I would argue that you take the best 4 SP you have and lean heavily on your bullpen.  I would be surprised if you had 4 SP with splits better than what you have for relief.
6/28/2012 11:37 AM
my rough guess is you could get 600 innings out of these guys used in the right way.  That leaves about 900 to be taken up by your SP.  With a proper 4 man rotation, you could easily meet that with 220-230 innings each
6/28/2012 12:03 PM
Thanks for all your in-put. The idea of a 4-man rotation just may work. Below, is my starting rotation. Please, continue with your comments/ideas. I really value this.

  Throw DUR HEAL STAM CONT LH  RH  VEL GB  P1  P2  P3  P4  P5 
Starting Pitcher 1 L 26 76 92 91 77 66 88 53 74 70 57 63 0
Starting Pitcher 2 R 32 75 75 89 57 70 89 79 76 69 55 75 65
Starting Pitcher 3 R 28 85 60 87 73 83 43 69 70 64 70 55 33
Starting Pitcher 4 R 30 89 69 61 72 81 38 61 83 64 48 55 24
Starting Pitcher 5 L 22 87 91 60 84 68 69 96 79 66 53 48 0

6/28/2012 12:23 PM
And bigal888 means with a 4 man rotation they would get 40 starts each a year, getting yanked at about the 5 inning mark to let that bullpen bring it home = 220 IP each.

*I know, the math.  I rounded*

6/28/2012 12:23 PM
yeah, you would have to have them on a short leash.  Looking at those 5, you've got a funky group of SP.  I've got to think about how I would use those guys...


6/28/2012 12:51 PM
Of the four, #2 is my least favorite, but he might command some value on the market, so I'd look to flip him.
6/28/2012 1:02 PM
Yeah-that was my next question-pitch count for four starters. I am thinking 20-25 under TPC. Does that sound right?
6/28/2012 5:11 PM
Way too many low-to-moderate innings from that group of SP. Cut bait where you can (none of them are superstars anyway) and lean very heavily on the pen.
6/28/2012 8:01 PM
Those starters will work fine.  Make #5 a LRA, keep the other 4 with max pitch count of say 80-90 and with pull ratings of 3-4.  When a pitcher gets hot make him 3 if he is cold make him 4.  The LRA can have a max count of 40-50, this way he very rarely ever gets below 100.  Then with that awesome bullpen closing out the last 4 innings which they could easily do every day no doubt.  Make sure your max pitch count on those relievers are no more then 25-30 if you make #6 the CLA (which I think you should) give him pitch counts 15 and 20.

As long as your bats are at least average overall you should win way more then you lose...  Though having one stud hitter would be nice...
6/28/2012 9:10 PM
I would drop to 4 starters and pitch count them at about 65, or whatever you think they can just barely clear 5 innings with. I had 4 cool SP's once all with over 30 durability and I ran a 4 man for quite a while as they recovered fast.  Only problem with them was they were all average so they just racked up losses fast lol.
6/29/2012 5:46 PM
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