AL MVPs since '89

1989	Robin Yount† (2)	Milwaukee Brewers	1st rd, 3 overall
1990	Rickey Henderson†	Oakland Athletics	4th rd, 96 overall
1991	Cal Ripken, Jr.† (2)	Baltimore Orioles	2nd rd, 48 overall
1992	Dennis Eckersley†	Oakland Athletics	3rd rd, 50 overall
1993	Frank Thomas§	Chicago White Sox	1st rd, 7 overall
1994	Frank Thomas (2)	Chicago White Sox	"
1995	Mo Vaughn	Boston Red Sox	1st rd, 23 overall
1996	Juan González	Texas Rangers	int'l
1997	Ken Griffey, Jr.§	Seattle Mariners	1st rd, 1 overall
1998	Juan González (2)	Texas Rangers	"
1999	Iván Rodríguez	Texas Rangers	int'l
2000	Jason Giambi^	Oakland Athletics	2nd rd, 58 overall
2001	Ichiro Suzuki^	Seattle Mariners	int'l
2002	Miguel Tejada^	Oakland Athletics	int'l
2003	Alex Rodriguez^	Texas Rangers	1st rd, 1 overall
2004	Vladimir Guerrero^	Anaheim Angels	int'l
2005	Alex Rodriguez^ (2)	New York Yankees	"
2006	Justin Morneau^	Minnesota Twins	3rd rd, 89 overall
2007	Alex Rodriguez^ (3)	New York Yankees	"
2008	Dustin Pedroia^	Boston Red Sox	2nd rd, 65 overall
2009	Joe Mauer^	Minnesota Twins	1st rd, 1 overall
2010	Josh Hamilton^	Texas Rangers	1st rd, 1 overall
2011	Justin Verlander^	Detroit Tigers	1st rd, 2 overall

NL MVPs since '89

1989	Kevin Mitchell	San Francisco Giants	amateur FA
1990	Barry Bonds	Pittsburgh Pirates	1st rd, 6 overall
1991	Terry Pendleton	Atlanta Braves	7th rd, 179 overall
1992	Barry Bonds (2)	Pittsburgh Pirates	"
1993	Barry Bonds (3)	San Francisco Giants	"
1994	Jeff Bagwell§	Houston Astros	4th rd, 110 overall
1995	Barry Larkin†	Cincinnati Reds	1st rd, 4 overall
1996	Ken Caminiti§	San Diego Padres	3rd rd, 71 overall
1997	Larry Walker	Colorado Rockies	amateur FA
1998	Sammy Sosa	Chicago Cubs	int'l
1999	Chipper Jones^	Atlanta Braves	1st rd, 1 overall
2000	Jeff Kent	San Francisco Giants	20th rd, 523 overall
2001	Barry Bonds (4)	San Francisco Giants	"
2002	Barry Bonds§ (5)	San Francisco Giants	"
2003	Barry Bonds (6)	San Francisco Giants	"
2004	Barry Bonds (7)	San Francisco Giants	"
2005	Albert Pujols^	St. Louis Cardinals	13th rd, 402 overall
2006	Ryan Howard^	Philadelphia Phillies	5th rd, 140 overall
2007	Jimmy Rollins^	Philadelphia Phillies	2nd rd, 46 overall
2008	Albert Pujols^ (2)	St. Louis Cardinals	"
2009	Albert Pujols^§ (3)	St. Louis Cardinals	"
2010	Joey Votto^	Cincinnati Reds	2nd rd, 44 overall
2011	Ryan Braun^	Milwaukee Brewers	1st rd, 5 overall

MLB MVPs since '89 were drafted at an average spot of 76.35, with 2 undrafted, non-int'l FA's (which you could factor in to lower the avg draft spot).

World Bench RoY average draft spot: 11.86
World Bench Cy Young avg draft spot: 4.57
World Bench MVP avg draft spot: 8.53
(from seasons 16-23)

Lowest drafted real life MLB MVP: Jeff Kent in the 20th round, 523 overall

Lowest drafted World Bench RoY: Jesse Ellis in the 1st round, 53 overall
Lowest drafted World Bench Cy Young: Jim Hand in the 1st round, 17 overall
Lowest drafted World Bench MVP: Darren Acosta in the 2nd round, 54 overall
(from seasons 16-23)

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I've speculated about this in other threads.  Don't bother looking.  HBD's best players are always either top-half first round draft choices or high priced International free agents; they don't come from anywhere else.  Short answer, HBD owners want it that way.  No one wants to spend money scouting and have a first round bust while another owner doesn't spend and finds a Jose Bautista in round 3.  It's not as dynamic as real life, but face it, the customers would ***** if there was more randomness to this game.

I'm actually impressed that you found an MVP drafted in the 2nd round.  I didn't find one in my world.

Another "it's not like MLB" thread.

Correct. It isn't.

No one wants to do everything right and lose to somebody who does nothing right but hits the HBD lottery several seasons in a row.

right... but my thinking is that I would like there to be a little more randomness so that I can make the draft a competitive advantage. the only way you can make it so currently is by sucking your way to the top of the draft so that you're in the mix for the top players.  I think that playing time, coaching, and statistical success should build confidence and allow a player to "outperform" his ratings, and the Diamond "lightning bolt" should be a little more helpful... but I also love HBD just the way it is, so maybe I shouldn't complain ;)

I think somebody would ask how it would be a competitive advantage if it were more random... I think that's where scouting should come into play.  I think everybody should "see" the top 15-20 or maybe top 30 players in draft prep (more like real life, few "surprise picks" in the 1st round), but scouting should have a greater influence later in the draft. in real life later picks are often used on "local" guys that have been scouted but not necessarily loved by scouts. maybe your scouting budget affects "local" guys you see, and more $ in scouting = more local "gems" that you see that nobody else sees... or something?

Random luck giving someone a superstar player is not a good thing for what is essentially a complex strategy game. As it is now, the successful GMs in this game are typically better at player evaluation (resulting in winning trades and acquiring the best talent) and money management, which I see as a good thing.

Pick six numbers. Go to the convenience store. Buy a ticket.

Problem solved.

Went back 10 seasons in Capra, to Season 15 (my first).

Looked at both leagues.  There have been 4 International MVP's.

There was one year when  tie occured.  One guy (12th pick) won three MVP's. A 13th pick won two, as did a 4th pick.

All together, the highest MVP pick was #2.  The lowest was #19. 

Making it more random might discourage tanking.

Isn't that what DITRs are supposed to do? The main problem is that DITRs are usually terrible.

Posted by adalynch on 9/18/2012 9:54:00 PM (view original):
Making it more random might discourage tanking.

Making it more random will discourage playing.

Then you've been very fortunate that none of them have been derailed by injury.    IF people wanted more randomness, they should as for a more realistic injury rate.    We'll put 10-15 on the DL all year.   At all levels.   MLB teams put that many on the DL at each level. 

FWIW, the injury rate was higher in the early years.   And people threw fits.   Some still do despite having injuries about 1/8 of a realistic number.