Questions raised from Mike's C to RF experiment Topic

Reading the thread on playing C in RF is interesting and got me wondering if my strategy at other positions are wrong.  Am I better off playing Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Ned Griffith at SS for his offense or playing Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Esteban Saenz at SS for his defense?  And at C, am I better off giving up PC and playing a guy like Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Rick Buckley or giving up offense for defense and playing a guy like Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Brutus Gardner?  I've played 10,000 HBD games and never thought much about it until the RF vs C thread.
12/7/2013 12:21 PM
Neither are great SS's.  Griffith is especially sketchy....but not all that much more so that Saenz.  Personally, I would play Gardner.  Not so much for the better PC (but it is a lot better) but he's also going to control the running game. Griffith wins a GG in LF, btw.  That's where I would play him on your team.
12/7/2013 10:55 PM
It's hard to compare career numbers because they progress/regress and play in different situations but NG has been the better SS.

 

 

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po

A

e

Plus

neg

Total

PPPS

ES

 

3365

681

1211

73

17

2

0.343

499.6

NG

 

5690

1187

2196

153

0

59

0.349

508.4


At the end of the day, you have to determine the better hitter and decide if his offensive output makes up for his lesser D.    That's how I worked the C to RF.
12/8/2013 7:11 AM
Mike, what is the best way to determine that.  I've always preferred an offensive shortstop that had defensive ratings similar to NG.  I just have never thought the great defensive SS's that are 85-95 rated across the board but hit .210 and have .250 OBP with no power could be more valuable than playing a guy like NG at SS.  I'm just wondering if my thinking is in the minority and how you determine it.
12/9/2013 12:12 PM

From the other thread:

 

Quote post by MikeT23 on 10/30/2013 3:15:00 PM:

 

 

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Total

PPPS

Neil Edwards

RF

24

4

0

0

0

0

0.167

243.0

Tyson James

RF

355.1

61

2

3

3

0

0.177

258.7

Cristian Sweeney *

RF

29

3

0

0

0

0

0.103

150.8

 

 

408.1

68

2

3

3

0

0.172

250.1

Ariel Martinez

RF

1044

145

5

8

0

15

0.122

177.3



He cost you 72.8 outs over your other RF.    You recorded 4359 outs and gave up 859 runs.   By my calculations, he cost you 14.34 runs(more or less).   Runs divided by outs times 72.8.

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If you wanted to compare, you could use RC and pro-rate it over 700 PA.    It's very rough but it could give you some sort of idea.
12/9/2013 1:48 PM
FWIW, I usually use a heavy D SS.    It helps your pitching fatigue because he's not giving up extra outs.  And, for the most part, my pitching is built very tight on the DUR/STM required. 
12/9/2013 1:50 PM
My C playing RF in MG.

 

 

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PPPS

Rodney Hubbard

RF

8.2

2

0

0

0

0

0.244

355.6

Emmanuel Welch

RF

51.1

4

0

0

0

0

0.078

114.1

Quilvio Salvador

RF

4

2

0

0

1

0

0.750

1093.5

Vic Barajas

RF

2

0

0

0

0

0

0.000

0.0

 

 

65.3

8

0

0

1

0

0.138

200.9

Kevin Ryu

RF

631

78

4

2

0

6

0.117

171.0


He'll cost me 29.9 outs over the other RF on the season.    329 runs allowed, 2091 outs recorded.   So, using the formula above, Ryu has cost me 3.13 runs.  Pro-rated over a full season, he would cost me 6.55 runs.

Conversely, Ryu's RC is 58.17 in 335 PA.    Pro-rated over 700 PA, he creates 121.55 runs.
The other 4 have 774 PA and 94.88 RC.   Pro-rated over 700 PA, they create 85.81 runs.   That puts Ryu at +35.74 runs.

35.74 - 6.55 = 29.19 runs on a full season.
12/9/2013 2:07 PM
Questions raised from Mike's C to RF experiment Topic

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