The True Open League Minimum PA/162 and IP/162 Topic

While the wizards of WIS state that an Open League requires minimum plate appearances of 5,000 and minimum innings pitched of 1,250, those minimums are actually 4,800 PA/162 and 1,200 IP/162. (Those true minimums hold true during play, not just the draft.)

It reminds me of politicians and their (our) government budgets, only in reverse and not nearly as bad.

I thought it would be a good idea to spell this out in a post all its own in the forum. Perhaps it will show up in the search of someone having to cope with the unnecessary confusion.
5/30/2015 12:39 PM
I wonder why the miss information by WIS? I've known what the true minimums are but I'm sure your post will help some players out. Thanks Arlen.
6/1/2015 12:45 PM
When WIS did the last SLB update (insert joke here), they instituted minimums for PA and IP for open leagues.  I believe that the values originally were 5000 and 1250 for a short time, but (for reasons I can't remember) they were later reduced to the present 4800/1200 values.  They obviously have neglected to edit the page cited by Arlen (insert additional jokes here).

FWIW, the correct info (along with what I hope is other useful info) is included in this post:
http://www.whatifsports.com/forums/Posts.aspx?ForumID=3&TopicID=474014&page=1#l_10369725

6/1/2015 1:14 PM
Posted by ArlenWilliam on 5/30/2015 12:39:00 PM (view original):
While the wizards of WIS state that an Open League requires minimum plate appearances of 5,000 and minimum innings pitched of 1,250, those minimums are actually 4,800 PA/162 and 1,200 IP/162. (Those true minimums hold true during play, not just the draft.)

It reminds me of politicians and their (our) government budgets, only in reverse and not nearly as bad.

I thought it would be a good idea to spell this out in a post all its own in the forum. Perhaps it will show up in the search of someone having to cope with the unnecessary confusion.
It reminds me of how Moody's and Standard and Poor gave Lehman Brothers and other Wall Street firms the top credit worthy rating despite their being disastrously over-leveraged in derivatives securities full of sub-prime loans (while downgrading the US government despite that fact that repayment on Treasury bonds is 100% secure, is the most credit worthy thing on planet Earth and repayment on government debt is guaranteed by the US Constitution). 

Or how Enron and WorldCom did business. Or most big businesses are able to use loopholes to avoid paying taxes. Or how WalMart is so profitable because it is subsidized by taxpayers because its low wages make many of its over 1 million employees eligible for food stamps. 

Only not nearly as bad.

Oh, wait, the private sector and the market are perfect and never make mistakes, I almost forgot. 
6/1/2015 7:16 PM
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Assuming you are asking me, the first political comment was ArlenWilliams', who wrote, 

"It reminds me of politicians and their (our) government budgets, only in reverse and not nearly as bad." 

See the top of the page. 

Also because of my borderline pathological tendencies. 

Seriously, you have a point, but lately I have noticed that others of a different political persuasion are ranting on politics more frequently, so I have responded in kind. 

But when enough is enough I can take criticism and will drop the politics for a bit. Thanks.

6/2/2015 8:54 AM
Rant away, Prof!  I always enjoy your posts. 

Remember, too, that people have the option of blocking users whose forum contributions they don't appreciate.  I must admit, I've availed myself of it on a few occasions.  
6/2/2015 12:59 PM
Assuming that the major banks are not connected with governments, and through and to the central banking apparatus(es) that become the creditor-masters of each, is missing the heart of the matter IP brings up.  (And collectivism is hardly the answer to the problem of the global cartel collective that runs collectivism.)

Thank you Contrarian23. And excellent cross-referencing.

6/2/2015 6:41 PM (edited)
IIRC, contrarian23, staff made a good number of changes, some of them good ones (whatever humor here) and then with the last (perish the thought) revision, they rescinded or reversed them. I supposed that the degree of processing in game play may have violated some sort of limit (thinking of a squirrel-on-treadmill-with-carrot-dangling generator) or that the new changes made future schemes of porting over to another language/database system more difficult... or some dang thing.

They made fatigue stricter, then rescinded it, for one example.

Far be it from me to complain about them though (whatever humor here, plus any imagery of a Tom Peters lecture...).

6/2/2015 9:07 PM (edited)
Posted by ArlenWilliam on 6/2/2015 6:41:00 PM (view original):
Assuming that the major banks are not connected with governments, and through and to the central banking apparatus(es) that become the creditor-masters of each, is missing the heart of the matter IP brings up.  (And collectivism is hardly the answer to the problem of the global cartel collective that runs collectivism.)

Thank you Contrarian23. And excellent cross-referencing.

"Capitalism only triumphs when it becomes identified with the State, when it IS the State." Fernand Braudel, Afterthoughts on Material Civilization, 1977. 

So we might agree more than we both think. Even if we disagree about that. (Yogi Berra). (Not really).

If we agree that large corporations (and banks) are themselves  a form of collectivism, and are not a form of private property then we have a match made in heaven. 

We do agree that what you call the global cartel, and I call "global governance" (using the term that the people who do it use for themselves) are pretty much the same thing, are a form of undemocratic rule and are such in the interests of large finance and global corporate power, and that governments mostly work under their tutelage now, at least I think we do. 

which makes us: (drum roll):

http://www.amazon.com/Unstoppable-Emerging-Left-Right-Dismantle-Corporate/dp/1568584547


So, we can get back to baseball now.
6/4/2015 4:57 PM (edited)
I agree with most of most of your sentiments, IP and simply add that the purer form of collectivism is even worse than financially interested corporatism.

"Power tends to corrupt and absolute power [including that which hides behind a veil of democracy] corrupts absolutely."

"Power to the people!" -- each person, thesis and synopsis found [yet online, thank God] in "The Rights of the Colonists," Samuel Adams, Boston, 1772.

Power to the Ted Williams school batter!

6/4/2015 5:56 PM
don't play too close attention to Prof's political diatribes. He thought Eugene V, Debs could have been POTUS
6/4/2015 8:54 PM
Posted by popfischer on 6/4/2015 8:54:00 PM (view original):
don't play too close attention to Prof's political diatribes. He thought Eugene V, Debs could have been POTUS
And besides, his statement/intention to drop the politics for a while didn't even last two days anyway!  lol

Just ribbin' ya, Prof!
6/4/2015 9:11 PM
Two days counts.
6/5/2015 3:34 AM
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