In a vacuum, would do you shoot for the BH and PASS to be for a SF in D1?....This is for a team hoping to make the NT and win a game or two, not a contender.

Would depend on the type of offense and what his other attributes are. Can't really give you a yes or no answer. 

I think upper 50's or low 60's is probably a great starting point.  If you stick with Motion I might aim more towards upper 60's 70's.

I have this guy and is very good offensively for a low end D1

Posted by Trentonjoe on 12/5/2015 7:27:00 PM (view original):
In a vacuum, would do you shoot for the BH and PASS to be for a SF in D1?....This is for a team hoping to make the NT and win a game or two, not a contender.

i wouldn't...  (shoot for bh/pass unless it was really the priority). its not the way to think about a SF in d1 especially. in d1 there are quality SFs, quality guards who can play SF, and quality PFs who can play SF. you can have scoring or not scoring SFs who are excellent in either case. its all about the overall package. i wouldn't rule out a SF who had 30 bh/pass nor would i think a SF was good because they had 90 bh/pass. 

so, it really depends on your team, what kind of SF makes sense. because of the incredible versatility available at the SF, i look at it as the fill position, the position that allows you to fine tune your team composition. if you have weaker rebounding bigs, you need a high reb SF who might have crap bh/pass (hopefully at least 40 pass or so). if you have guards with weaker pass you might shoot for a SF with 75 pass (SF passing is more important from a team standpoint, bh is important only from an individual standpoint). of course, if your team is weak offensively, you take a star scorer type SF no matter what the cost - crap reb, crap bh/pass, gotta do what has to be done to field an effective offensive unit, that will trump anything else.

anyway to try to put an actual answer on your question, on average i'd say roughly 60 bh/pass but the variance from that mean would be dramatic... 

edit: what i'm getting at is these kind of rule of thumb benchmarks are useful especially for new and moderately experienced coaches, especially when you have specific boxes players often fall into. what bh/pass should you shoot for in a d3 pg is a pretty solid question, because the rule of thumb is fairly useful. any rule of thumb on a d1 SF for teams getting into the competitive part of d1, is going to be totally useless. in a way, its counter-productive, because it promotes a ratings-first and player-first mode of thinking instead of the desired ability-first and team-first mode of thinking.

I am mostly concerned with having low BH/pass create turnovers in my SF.

Not in a vacuum.....The guy I am thinking of is going to be roughly 95 ATH 70 SPD 70+ LP but only like 60 BH and 50 PASS......offensively, is that BH going to reduce his scoring efficiency and will the lowish BH/PASS be a detriment against decent press teams? I am not worried about him on defense or rebounding....It's a motion offense....I would like him to be my 2 or third option on offense.

Are you talking about that guy Trenton?

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=3186472

If so, at D+, you have yourself a player. His BH is allright, maybe his PASS is a bit low but he clearly is a solid player, and as back-up, he is really decent.

At La Salle, at D- D+, I started this guy. Your player remind me of him. We had our best season with him as a starter, but he did turnover a lot. 2.2 per game for all his career, it got down at the end.

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerHistory/Ratings.aspx?&pid=3086141

My back-up was this one https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerHistory/Ratings.aspx?&pid=3086142
He had 1.6 to a game. But I really like your player more than the one I had. Especially if you are man to man.

This season, I am using this one, not a real SF but I love his defensive talent.

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Stats.aspx?tid=11918&pid=3137172

He turnovers 1.8 on 30 minutes. To me, it's allright, You have to give up on some stats when you are at the bottom of the food chain. You are Lucky not to be playing in Tark, I mean, you get on a recruit and you have sharks coming in from everywhere.

thats the guy

Well, he is pretty amazing. It dépends on what you can accept. If you hate turnovers, I can understand, He will be really good even next season.