Jubilee Progressive needs one owner FOR FRANCHISE Topic

LOOKING FOR A UNIQUE PROGRESSIVE?  LOOKING FOR A FRANCHISE BASED PROGRESSIVE?  LOOKING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO MATCH YOUR SKILLS AGAINST WHAT YOUR MLB FRANCHISE WAS ABLE TO DO AND OTHER WIS OWNERS?   ALL THIS AND A GREAT CORE OF OWNERS

THEN THE JUBILATION PROGRESSIVE MAY BE FOR YOU.  CLICK THE LINK BELOW FOR COMPLETE LEAGUE RULES.

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WE ARE ENTERING OUR 1949 SEASON.  IT IS THE LAST OF THE 7 YEAR JUBILEE CYCLE.  1950 WILL BE A NEW JUBILEE CYCLE AND YOUR MLB FRANCHISE ROSTER WILL BE YOUR WIS TEAM TO BEGIN THE SEASON.  please read the link....a much more interesting explanation of this opportunity.

Franchises available are Washington (to become Twins) and Philadelphia A's.

Phildelphia A's 1949 Roster     A's draft 10th in 1949             Rosters are supplemented by AAA

C   Wes Westrum
1b  Ed Stevens
2b  Joe Gordon
2b  Gene Mauch
ss  Bill Rigney
3b  George Kell
OF Tommy Henrich
OF Dale Mitchell
OF Dave Philley
OF Chuck Diering
OF Buddy Lewis

Pitchers:

Fred Hutchinson
Curt Simmons
Carl Scheib
Vic Lombardi

TAKEN---Washington 1949 Roster---Taken                1st pick in 1949 Draft         Rosters are supplemented by AAA

C   Mike Guerra
C   Joe Garagiola
1b  Ferris Fain
2b  Danny Murtaugh
2b  Jack Lohrke
ss  John Sullivan
ss  Virgil Stallcup
of   Johnny Ostrowski
of   Taffy Wright
of   Larry Doby
of   Stan Spence

pitchers:

Dutch Leonard
Early Wynn
Ewell Blackwell
Mickey Haefner
Dave Koslo
Hank Behrman
Dick Welteroth

Cut Joe Tipton Catcher

All other players retired

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12/17/2015 12:51 AM
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12/18/2015 10:15 PM
This is a great league and a unique one. Every seven years (a "Jubilee") rosters revert back to the historical rosters for teams for that historic season and then we re-start the cycle of What If? by drafting and trading, but knowing that come year 7 players that were not on the team historically will be gone. It makes for a very different environment for strategic drafting and trading and managing. 

Take one of the teams and change history with us ! .

And compliments to our dedicated, level-headed and excellent commissioner BullMoose. 


12/19/2015 6:09 AM
Here are the league rules:

Concept:  Jubilee Revisited is based on the concept that every 7 years, in times gone by, slaves were freed, debts forgiven and property restored.  That final point is the concept the Jubilee Revisited Progressive League (JRPL) is based.  League owners have the player rights to their chosen franchise returned to them every seven seasons.  During the six seasons between, via rookie draft,  owners try to improve their franchise beyond what their MLB counterparts were able to field and best that MLB Won/Loss Percentage.  That is a personally satisfying (or discouraging) unique challenge to the league.  The other challenge is much more traditional....make the playoffs, win the World Series.

Rules:

I.   Jubilee Cycle:  Every seven years the JRPL owner has his franchise rebooted to the players who were on the MLB team that season.

     A.   Jubilee Cycles are:  1944-49; 50-55; 56-61; 62-67; 68-73; etc. (the 1st date in each cycle is the reboot year.)

     B.   Rookie/FA/Cut drafts are held in the other 6 seasons.
           b.  1.  Snake style draft used for first 7 year cycle.  Beginning in 1950 JRPL will use traditional worst to first draft.

     C.  Each draft is based on the MLB franchises finish...not the JRPL finish.
           c.  1.   Draft is based on a team's winning % we are entering not the one just finished.
           c.  2.   In the event of a dead heat the team with the worst record the previous season would get the higher draft slot.
           c.  3    No team in the entire league can have the first pick more than two consecutive seasons.  
           c.  4.   Likewise, No team in either league, nor any division, may have the highest pick more than two consecutive seasons. 
           c.  5.   In the event a third consecutive season does occur said team drops down two draft slots.

     D.  COMPETITIVE BALANCE RULE:  Missed 1ST ROUND PICKS will be made by the Commish one hour before second round begins.  There will be at least 12 scheduled hours between 1st and second round.  Sorry but this pick will be final and based upon Commish's  highest rated remaining player regardless of position or team need.
          
II.  Roster Jubilee Year:  1st year in the cycle.

     A.   The Commissioner will post rosters prior to the Jubilee Season but if an owner wants to have information earlier he may go to the draft page, enter WIS data base, select the year, set the games to 0 (zero), and toggle to owner's MLB franchise.  Each player that appeared for the minimum PA's or IP for that franchise in the WIS database appears. Select those players to your roster.

           a.  1.   No team will retain rights to more that 25.   Owner will have to select only 25 if more qualify for franchise.
           a.  2.   Teams with too many players will submit unwanted to draft pool for a Dispersal Draft by teams who do not have 25 players.
           a.  3.   Teams with too few players will be entered into Dispersal Draft. Teams needing most picking first.  Team salary to determine which goes first in the event of a tie.  Each round determined by total players needed.
           a.  4.   Jubilee year players belong only to whichever franchise he first appeared in MLB that season and had WIS stats.
           a.  5.   When/if all players in Jubilee year are depleted roster can be filled by $400 k or less players whose career ended prior to 1944.  Owners Choice.

    B.    Trades for the Jubilee Year (44, 50, 56, 62, etc.) must be made after the season has started.  Must go through GM's office.


III.       Rosters non-Jubilee Year

    A.    Keepers list will be used by Commish as he creates draft eligible list.
           
           a.   1.   Commish will do his best to communicate with owner on apparent roster oversights/snafus prior to draft.  Get those keeper lists in early to help ensure as few errors as possible.  Be sure to check draft eligible prior to drat starting to avoid costly mistakes
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           a.    2.   SNOOZE YOU LOSE RULE:   Keepers lists must reflect all players owner intends on keeping.  Owners will be reminded via site mail to verify their roster versus draft eligible list prior to draft.  After this errors/ommisssions are owners responsibility.  Once the draft starts a player left off of the teams keeper list completely cannot be reclaimed.  A player error that shows up on the draft eligible list can be reclaimed only if undrafted by another team.

IV.  Drafts:


       A.   Drafts are going to be run with time slots with an eye to being fair.  Owners must remain in slots if their are missing pick for that day.
      
       B.  Drafting owners are responsible to check back to last "UPDATE" to ensure player they select is still available.

       C.  Proxies are encouraged...both through other owners or self or open proxies. 

       D.  Draft picks belong to team owner . They can be traded even if unscheduled for use up until that selection has been bypassed by another teams selection. 

       E.  Obviously, no rule can make an owner site mail the next two or three up in a draft but we want our quality owners to do quality things.  Please site mail.

V.  General Rules:

      A.  Trades.
            
            a.    1.  Trades are encouraged.  Players and picks can be traded
            a.    2.  Cannot trade more than 3 seasons out.
            a.    3.  Cannot trade picks from next Jubilee Cycle unless both owners are returning.  If both don't, traded pick by departing team is nullified.  Owners risk.
            a.    4.  Game 120 will be TRADE DEADLINE

      B.   No Waiver Wire

      C.   No DH until revote to take place during 1968-1973 cycle for the 74 and forward cycles.

      D.   Injuries on

      E.   Must use your team location or name:  ie New York Yankees, New York Bombers, Backyard Yanks, Bronx Yankees are okay.  Bronx Bombers not.

      F.   Ball Parks are historic and season locked.  ie. When Brooklyn moves in MLB stadium changes even in mid Jubilee Cycle.

      G.   Injured Reserve/Inactive has no limit as long as player does not appear in WIS for that season.
            g. 1.  No Jubilee year IR player can be protected or drafted.  They will be added to 1st draft eligible season in Cycle.
       
      H.  Leagues will be based on AL & NL affiliations with all possible desire to regional alignment.  Change in MLB location will dictate adjustments on the Jubilee season not mid-Cycle.

      I.    AAA players will be used through 1961 at which time new vote will take place on their continuance (in 16 team League).  6-4 lowest rated below average.

Guidelines:

Quite simply:  enjoy your experience.  Do your best to improve your team without adversely effecting the Jubilee Season or Cycle.  Be an owner the other owners of the league are happy to be playing with.  Be concerned for the ongoing success of the league as well as your team.  Remember...this 7 year cycle progressive is quite different than others.  Creativity may be key to improving your team.   Minor trades may be as important as major.  Picks may have more or less value depending on your MLB affiliate's finish.  Don't give up.  Your success can be measured against your MLB teams record as well as your JRPL league standings.  Post your keepers as early as possible and enter your team as quickly as possible.  Progressives are meant to progress. 

I believe these will help us to maintain owners and excitement.
12/19/2015 6:10 AM
here's a good way to look at our league Phil A'a have the 1st pick in 50 and 54 and the 3rd in 53 and 55 these are pre-determined because of our draft going off of real life records at the end of the MLB seasons, Washington has a tie breaker 1st in 51 (mays or mantle which will you chose) a 1st in 55 a 3rd in 54 and a 4th in 55 and they are a near .500 team in 52 and 53. In our league the Yankees and dodgers don't dominate because they are always are picking near the bottom in the draft come join a great group of owners and see how you can fair
12/23/2015 8:13 AM
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your right on that it will be the best of the rest availables for 50
12/23/2015 1:30 PM
Posted by grayfoxx on 12/23/2015 10:50:00 AM (view original):
If the A's have the first pick in 1950, who is available to draft?? If all teams are going with RL rosters there wont even be any rookies to choose from.
This pick is 49 draft.   In 1950 everyone has their MLB roster.  Teams with more than 25 players select the 25 they want and the rest are put into a dispersal draft.  Then if any players are still needed to complete a couple rosters 400 K players, any retiring prior to 1942, may be selected after every MLB player from 50are gone.
12/23/2015 11:17 PM
and when the next Jubilee cycly begins we will go to the traditional draft rather than snake style.
12/23/2015 11:18 PM
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12/27/2015 12:54 PM
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12/30/2015 4:43 PM

draft underway....don't let that deter you.  Great group of owners and first cycle nearly complete.  There were many teams in competition for playoffs throughout the years completed.

1/2/2016 12:56 AM

Senators are taken.....Join us....The A's have a very solid core on the way for a decade.

1/3/2016 2:58 AM
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