I realize pitcher's fatigue and we see it before/after games. Is fatigue taken into account while the pitching is going on? if so I would imagine have a bearing on the outcome of at bats IF this does take place?

I ask because I had a pitcher dazzle for 7 innings and get blasted 1 out into the 8th inning. I am wondering if reducing the pitch count max/target could help prevent this?

I don't know that ADMIN has ever confirmed it but I believe in-game fatigue affecting outcome happens. I've often shortened the PC on a guy getting smoked late and he suddenly pitches well. I generally use 40/50 or 50/60 for LR for the same reason.

Strongly believe in this, and I run pitch counts shorter than most people (and bullpens with higher DUR/ST than most people) because of it.

I know I have seen at least one post regarding a person's opinion on pitching limits are there any good rules of thumb what the target/max pitch count might be based on certain stamina values i.e. 70, 80, 90, 20? Thank you

My team in Majors was the reason I came back to HBD. Detroit (I am a Tigers fan) was available and I had some unused credits so I said what the hell? The best pitcher on the team was and still is Midre Escuela.

Player Profile: Midre Escuela - Hardball Dynasty Baseball | WhatIfSports

Because I had him and his 60/24 Stamina/Dur I decided to try a full tandem team. Signed a bunch of very good pitchers with low Stamina that could pitch every 4th day for 3 or 4 innings. First year it went great. Won the WS and Escuela and a others were very good like a 3.10 ERA or so for Escuela. Year 2 something happened. Escuela's ERA and WHIP both ballooned terribly. I couldn't figure out what the hell was going on. At the halfway point his ERA was over 5.5....yikes. I noticed he was getting pounded later in his outings say inning 4 so I lowered the pitch counts from the default (60 I believe it was) down to 50. Since then his ERA has been below 3.00 the last two seasons, and his innings are actually up.

Now that is one guy and one situation but since then I always pay attention to under performing pitchers and if they start to show a pattern of getting knocked around late I will lower the PC by 10 or 15.

I played in leagues on the SimLeague Baseball side for years on WiS before switching over to HBD. Got into some leagues towards the end with LIVE play, and you can really see that once a pitcher reaches his in-game stamina limits, his in-game fatigue percentage starts to fall off a cliff and leaving him in is dangerous. Better to pull him and get a fresh arm in than push the limits at less than full strength.

Posted by dedelman on 2/19/2016 12:16:00 PM (view original):
Strongly believe in this, and I run pitch counts shorter than most people (and bullpens with higher DUR/ST than most people) because of it.

I've done this same thing (after seeing dedelman post on this a number of times over the years). I agree wholeheartedly.

Posted by gotigers17 on 2/19/2016 1:23:00 PM (view original):
My team in Majors was the reason I came back to HBD. Detroit (I am a Tigers fan) was available and I had some unused credits so I said what the hell? The best pitcher on the team was and still is Midre Escuela.

Player Profile: Midre Escuela - Hardball Dynasty Baseball | WhatIfSports

Because I had him and his 60/24 Stamina/Dur I decided to try a full tandem team. Signed a bunch of very good pitchers with low Stamina that could pitch every 4th day for 3 or 4 innings. First year it went great. Won the WS and Escuela and a others were very good like a 3.10 ERA or so for Escuela. Year 2 something happened. Escuela's ERA and WHIP both ballooned terribly. I couldn't figure out what the hell was going on. At the halfway point his ERA was over 5.5....yikes. I noticed he was getting pounded later in his outings say inning 4 so I lowered the pitch counts from the default (60 I believe it was) down to 50. Since then his ERA has been below 3.00 the last two seasons, and his innings are actually up.

Now that is one guy and one situation but since then I always pay attention to under performing pitchers and if they start to show a pattern of getting knocked around late I will lower the PC by 10 or 15.

I believe that is the random "**** happens" factor built in to HBD. I have seen many players perform to a certain level for the bulk of their careers suddenly have that one-off season where they perform way below(or sometimes above) their norms. Good or bad, it usually seems to last the whole season and then they return to normal. I actually had it happen to my whole team once. Went from 104 wins one season to 78 the next with virtually the same team.

Posted by silentpadna on 2/23/2016 3:33:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dedelman on 2/19/2016 12:16:00 PM (view original):
Strongly believe in this, and I run pitch counts shorter than most people (and bullpens with higher DUR/ST than most people) because of it.

I've done this same thing (after seeing dedelman post on this a number of times over the years). I agree wholeheartedly.

I adjust pitch counts for my relievers on a game to game basis based on their fatigue. I also run pretty short pitch counts which usually accounts for most games using 3-5 relievers.