"If a player had rating 80 and F IQ, they would play like a player with rating ___ with A+ IQ."

That isn't how it works.

Posted by l80r20 on 1/7/2018 1:27:00 PM (view original):
"If a player had rating 80 and F IQ, they would play like a player with rating ___ with A+ IQ."

That isn't how it works.

This is to determine what people think the multiplier value of IQ is, not to discuss the intricacies of game ratings.

I'm switching O/D in a few games. Will be a SSS but I'll save the before/after stats.

Sr.	PG	A-	C+	C	D-	A-	C+	D-
Sr.	SF	A-	D-	C	C-	A	C	D-
Sr.	SF	A-	C	C	D-	A	C	C+
Sr.	SF	A-	D-	C	C-	A	C+	C
Jr.	C	B+	C-	C	D-	B+	C+	D-
So.	SG	B	F	C	F	B-	C+	C-
So.	SG	B-	F	C	C-	B-	B-	C-
So.	PF	B-	D-	C+	D-	B	C+	D-
Fr.	PG	C-	F	C-	F	D+	C-	D-
Fr.	PG	F	C	C	F	F	C	C
Fr.	PF	F	C+	C	F	C-	C+	F
Fr.	C	F	F	C	C-	F	C+	F

Flex(3rd column) to Triangle(5th column) as soon as the guys getting the most minutes hit C+ in Triangle.

(holds nose and says ...) I agree with l80/Spud. I do not agree that each attribute is adjusted by the IQ. Instead I calculate an "overall" player rating, based on POS/role then adjust for IQ. Additionally, I think not all IQ are the same - a C+ in Flex is way different than a C+ in FB. Finally while do not think it is linear, linear is easier to calculate, and the difference is not so great as to change strategic reasoning.

Also not all A+ are equal, and is possible for an A+ to play "greater" than their rating.

And now I wait to be corrected.

Posted by jt2xTTU on 1/7/2018 2:18:00 PM (view original):
(holds nose and says ...) I agree with l80/Spud. I do not agree that each attribute is adjusted by the IQ. Instead I calculate an "overall" player rating, based on POS/role then adjust for IQ. Additionally, I think not all IQ are the same - a C+ in Flex is way different than a C+ in FB. Finally while do not think it is linear, linear is easier to calculate, and the difference is not so great as to change strategic reasoning.

Also not all A+ are equal, and is possible for an A+ to play "greater" than their rating.

And now I wait to be corrected.

Yes. The 80 is my overall rating. Now I'm adjusting for IQ. I agree it is not linear. I'll just do quadratic because you can approximately represent many different types of curves.

I think the last two points you made are very interesting for sure. IDK if someone can play higher than their rating. I would bet Top A+ is 1.00 while bottom A+ is like .994 or something. Same with stamina. At the start of the game, everyone is at 1, after 15 seconds, everyone is still fresh but now it is like a .999 multiplier.

"Additionally, I think not all IQ are the same - a C+ in Flex is way different than a C+ in FB."

Can you explain further?

Flex C+ is an efficient, effective, viable player. For a FB player to have the same efficiency would have to be a (approx) B+.

Motion ~ B-
Tri ~ B

Posted by jt2xTTU on 1/7/2018 3:02:00 PM (view original):
Flex C+ is an efficient, effective, viable player. For a FB player to have the same efficiency would have to be a (approx) B+.

Motion ~ B-
Tri ~ B

That is utter hosrsehit.

Neither of you are presenting convincing arguments.

"It's this"
"No, it's not"

Compelling.

Posted by jt2xTTU on 1/7/2018 2:18:00 PM (view original):
(holds nose and says ...) I agree with l80/Spud. I do not agree that each attribute is adjusted by the IQ. Instead I calculate an "overall" player rating, based on POS/role then adjust for IQ. Additionally, I think not all IQ are the same - a C+ in Flex is way different than a C+ in FB. Finally while do not think it is linear, linear is easier to calculate, and the difference is not so great as to change strategic reasoning.

Also not all A+ are equal, and is possible for an A+ to play "greater" than their rating.

And now I wait to be corrected.

As you wish ... I haven't participated in this thread and don't think it is worth trying to calculate precisely how IQ affects anything else except W's.

Well, when I did a regression analysis of 14 seasons of all three levels and I figured in SIM OWNERSHIP I found the chi value of the IQ value to with in a STD DEV of the mean for all IQ's effect on TOs/possession in relation to their distro setting and fatigue.

Seriously, what do you want me to say? I have successful teams at all levels using EVERY offense and to claim one offense needs a B+ to be efficient and another is C+ is contrary to everything I have noticed. There are like a million factors, IQ is hard to isolate but I can say I have had reasonably efficient scorers against VERY HIGH level competition score reasonably efficiently in a fastbreak at B- (ish) IQ.

Posted by Trentonjoe on 1/7/2018 3:24:00 PM (view original):
Well, when I did a regression analysis of 14 seasons of all three levels and I figured in SIM OWNERSHIP I found the chi value of the IQ value to with in a STD DEV of the mean for all IQ's effect on TOs/possession in relation to their distro setting and fatigue.

Seriously, what do you want me to say? I have successful teams at all levels using EVERY offense and to claim one offense needs a B+ to be efficient and another is C+ is contrary to everything I have noticed. There are like a million factors, IQ is hard to isolate but I can say I have had reasonably efficient scorers against VERY HIGH level competition score reasonably efficiently in a fastbreak at B- (ish) IQ.

lmao this is gold