Ok, so D2 vs D2 coach on a D1 recruit.

say in RS1 both coaches go all in for a recruit. And the opposing coach changes jobs. And another human comes in to replace him. I know that some of the effort is negated for the new coach. But I don't think it all is.

if it's a late signer (which would allow the new coach time to unlock everything), if he goes after that same recruit, is that school getting double effort?!

I'm sure double is not possible. But just knowing that all of the previous effort isn't taken away, it seems that new coach would have an advantage of some sort (being able to max effort)

The new coach is at a disadvantage!! I am not sure what you mean by double effort but there is a new coach penalty applied for every player that the previous coach gave AP to.

It's an interesting question, top dog bottom. The new coach starts at a fairly significant disadvantage, but with resources to spend. You still have AP's to stay ahead of him for at least several cycles. Can he ever catch you? I suspect only if you let him. And if the recruit is that good there's always a D1 school ready to take him from both of you.

I'm just judging by a situation i dealt with in the past...

in the scenario I explained, I was moderate along with the other D2 original coach. When that coach left, and the new one came in, when RS1 started, I moved up to very high and signed the player. But the new coach final level with that guy was low. NOT very low. I asked that coach if he continued to try to go after that recruit and he said no.

so by that info, I assumed that some effort fron the "school" was still in place. Now, obviously the recruit was an early signee in this case. So none of it mattered. But my point is, had that recruit been a late signer, the new coach would've started at Low instead of "nothing" (not even up to very low yet). So with the new coach coming in, he'd still have the ability to offer the max, starting from low already.

Are you guys understanding my comment better with that description? I understand he'd be at a disadvantage with AP on his screen. But some effort is already on the guy.

"I assumed that some effort fron the "school" was still in place"

Sure, that's the experience of anyone who has changed jobs in 3.0. Your observation that the new coach started at Low confirms that new coaches start with a reduction in prior recruiting effort that was credited for that school and recruit, but not to zero. Whether he can catch up if you persist with your AP's is anybody's guess, untested so far as far as I know.

What I'm saying is.....

so if new coach goes all in, does his effort total 22 HV and 2 CV if the effort that was kept fron the previous coach was 2 HV and 1 CV?

I know it's not broken down that way. But that's my question basically. Does a new coach coming in reap the benefits of being able to have more total effort in one recruit if they go all in as well if the previous coach went all in?

Posted by topdogggbm on 4/22/2018 4:09:00 PM (view original):
What I'm saying is.....

so if new coach goes all in, does his effort total 22 HV and 2 CV if the effort that was kept fron the previous coach was 2 HV and 1 CV?

I know it's not broken down that way. But that's my question basically. Does a new coach coming in reap the benefits of being able to have more total effort in one recruit if they go all in as well if the previous coach went all in?

It is likely that the recruiting money is refunded (as is the recruiting effort associated with the HVs/CVs) but the AP is *NOT* refunded (since a new coach can't reallocated that AP).

So its likely the new coach will have equivalent AP that is spent from RS1 but not additional credit from HVs/CVs that are likely pulled back.

Is it bottom? I thought it was like it is written. Top dog gg bm

It's topdogg... gbm. My initials

Sorry, I was just writing it the way I pronounce it.

And I think any effort-credit from the prior coach is simply reduced across the board, total effort reduced by X% no matter how it was achieved. And I sort of doubt that he can ever catch up in practice, although as you point out, in theory if the recruiting went on long enough for the new coach to max out his effort it could, again theoretically, add up to enough to exceed your max.