D3 program running motion/zone, maybe motion/press-zone.

Player 1-SR A-/A- 36 ath 37 spd 50 def 69 reb 67 blk 82 lp
Player 2-FR D+/C* 42 ath 42 spd 57 def 48 reb 32 blk 61 lp

When I type them out like this the choice seems obvious but the FR will be a 50 ath 50 spd guy by conference play. NonCon schedule features 6 ranked opponents.

Player A for sure to start of the season. You can update the thread as season progresses. I'd look for upgrades over both of them though.

There's a reason they're called backups. The Sr didn't develop (end of cycle pickup, went straight yellow ATH on day 1) and the Fr just got here, he'll be fine. The Jr starter is as good as there is. This is a question of who should actually see the floor. Jr only has a 70 stamina so someone needs to play about 15 mpg.

Player A to start the season due to a little better ratings and way better IQ.

In my humble opinion, some of the decision has to do with team. Coming off a 1-26 Season, and you have "decent" roster, I would be tempted to start the FR, and make the Back-up the Senior. His IQ would be key off the bench, and you will need the "better" Sophomore next year after you lose your Seniors. With only three total wins in two seasons, you really need to forget year three, and think about next year. Schedule NC so you can improve the win total, and target some better players to recruit. You have nice balance, but need a good class this season.

Senior gives you slightly better performances. Giving the freshman the PT will help him develop a little faster. If the freshman’s work ethic is above the 20-30 range, I wouldn’t worry about it, and I’d take the better performances this year, though by the end of the year, the freshman may be the better player, depending on potential.

Posted by wvufan76 on 2/26/2019 8:56:00 AM (view original):
In my humble opinion, some of the decision has to do with team. Coming off a 1-26 Season, and you have "decent" roster, I would be tempted to start the FR, and make the Back-up the Senior. His IQ would be key off the bench, and you will need the "better" Sophomore next year after you lose your Seniors. With only three total wins in two seasons, you really need to forget year three, and think about next year. Schedule NC so you can improve the win total, and target some better players to recruit. You have nice balance, but need a good class this season.

I think you’re talking about the wrong team...

wvu,

They're both backups. The team is ranked. The Jr starter is likely 1st team All Conference.

Over the long term the FR is clearly a better option. But the preconference schedule is a nightmare with 6 ranked opponents. So the question is should I play the SR or the FR? Am I going to gain more/be hurt less by the SR with higher IQ and better games skills or the FR with better physical skills?

SR is a no-brainer for me, if the only consideration is winning games right now. The FR attributes aren’t good enough yet to make up for the big IQ dropoff. When his Ath is ~50, and his Reb is ~55, that’s about the point at which I’d consider a switch, personally. Maybe a bit sooner if the Def is also going up.

Posted by iamjoeyd on 2/26/2019 9:36:00 AM (view original):
wvu,

They're both backups. The team is ranked. The Jr starter is likely 1st team All Conference.

Over the long term the FR is clearly a better option. But the preconference schedule is a nightmare with 6 ranked opponents. So the question is should I play the SR or the FR? Am I going to gain more/be hurt less by the SR with higher IQ and better games skills or the FR with better physical skills?

its not even close, the way you phrase it - which i'm reading as, who is better now. the SR is WAY better. its better to think of abilities than ratings (same goes for that PF you like who has far better ratings than abilities - with the latter being all that really matters).

so, lets break down the 3 abilities you should care about in your position, for a PF - defense, rebounding, and offense.

offensively, both players are pretty poor, and these guys are backups anyway where typically offense is even less important - slight edge for the senior, but not an important one.

on rebounding, player 1 is way better. rebounding is by far the most important attribute for the rebounding ability, with ath and IQ being the only other meaningful attributes (in zone - in press, also stamina). player 1 has 21 reb and way better IQ, vs 6 ath - not even close. for a backup PF, rebounding is almost always the most important attribute, especially in d3. in this regard, its the SR by a mile.

on defense, player 1 is substantially better. you are running zone, and in zone, def, blk, and ath are the three cores that make up the defensive ability, with IQ being substantially important. player 2 has 7 def and 6 ath, but that is dwarfed by player 1's 35 sb advantage and his huge IQ advantage. frankly, its not really even close.

when you look at it like that - there's no contest at all.

Posted by gillispie1 on 2/28/2019 9:51:00 PM (view original):

Posted by iamjoeyd on 2/26/2019 9:36:00 AM (view original):
wvu,

They're both backups. The team is ranked. The Jr starter is likely 1st team All Conference.

Over the long term the FR is clearly a better option. But the preconference schedule is a nightmare with 6 ranked opponents. So the question is should I play the SR or the FR? Am I going to gain more/be hurt less by the SR with higher IQ and better games skills or the FR with better physical skills?

its not even close, the way you phrase it - which i'm reading as, who is better now. the SR is WAY better. its better to think of abilities than ratings (same goes for that PF you like who has far better ratings than abilities - with the latter being all that really matters).

so, lets break down the 3 abilities you should care about in your position, for a PF - defense, rebounding, and offense.

offensively, both players are pretty poor, and these guys are backups anyway where typically offense is even less important - slight edge for the senior, but not an important one.

on rebounding, player 1 is way better. rebounding is by far the most important attribute for the rebounding ability, with ath and IQ being the only other meaningful attributes (in zone - in press, also stamina). player 1 has 21 reb and way better IQ, vs 6 ath - not even close. for a backup PF, rebounding is almost always the most important attribute, especially in d3. in this regard, its the SR by a mile.

on defense, player 1 is substantially better. you are running zone, and in zone, def, blk, and ath are the three cores that make up the defensive ability, with IQ being substantially important. player 2 has 7 def and 6 ath, but that is dwarfed by player 1's 35 sb advantage and his huge IQ advantage. frankly, its not really even close.

when you look at it like that - there's no contest at all.

Damn...

Where have you been?

An update...

Both guys are playing about 10 mpg. The SR is the backup PF averaging 5.7pts 4.3rbs, which I think is excellent.

The FR is backing up SF. A move that took place when my FR C refused a redshirt.

The team is 2-1 and just knocked off #1.