12x12, Version 5 (Waitlist) Topic

I haven't run a 12x12 theme since Jan-2016. We just finished a 16x16 draft and had a lot of fun. So let's pivot to a 12x12 draft. For those that are familiar with 16x16, but not 12x12, the main difference is that you must draft at least one teammate from each of the 12 nominated players (so one player gets to bring two teammates).

12 Players, 12 Seasons, Version 5
$130M Salary Cap
DH = Yes, All Seasons
You must use your nominated player for playoff eligibility*


This theme is essentially two separate 12-team leagues, with separate player pools and separate drafts, but combined into one standard 24-team league. When you sign up, you must select which group (Group 1 or Group 2) you want to play in. Group 1 owners will be placed in the NL. Group 2 owners will be placed in the AL. There are no AL or NL player requirements or difference in rules. From this point forward, all rules will be stated in terms of one 12-team group.

Each of the 12 owners will nominate 1 player that has played between 12-15 seasons* in their career. Each of the 12 owners will draft a different season of each player nominated to be on their team. So all 12 teams will own the same 12 players, but each with a different version of that player.

* Note that if a player played 11 seasons, but played for 2 different teams in one season, that counts as 12 seasons (you'll understand why after reading the remaining rules ).

Of the 12 nominated players chosen, we're going with 7 hitters and 5 pitchers. The seven hitters should cover 7 of the standard 8 positions (this version uses a DH, but since there are more fielding spots available than players nominated, there is no reason to create a DH slot to fill). For players who played more than one position, there will be some leeway on which position you can nominate him at.

Upon signup, list your player in this forum and post which season you are using (you don't need to site-mail me anymore). You can change your mind on your season or nomination up until I post the draft order. I will wait until at least six owners pick a player before I select mine. Once all 12 players are chosen, I'll post the draft order. We will have an 11 round draft to select the other 11 seasons used for each player. Draft order for each round will be based on the LOWEST cumulative salary going into that round (i.e., lowest salary drafts first).

Here's where it gets fun...
Your remaining 13 roster spots must be filled with teammates of your drafted/nominated player(s). They must be from the same season as your drafted/nominated player. No Twisting. Players chosen in the draft are exclusive by season so they cannot be used as a teammate (regardless if they are in group 1 or group 2). If you draft a player season with 2+ teams, you choose which version of that season you want, partial or combined, and can only take teammates from that team (the version you don't take is off the board). This is how a player with 11 seasons, including one multi-team season can be allowed. Or similarly, a player with 10 seasons, w/ two multi-team seasons is allowed, etc. Unlike the 16x16 theme, you must roster at least one teammate per player drafted. 12 nominated players & 13 teammates means one of your players will have two teammates.

Salary Cap = $130 million
Seasons - All
No AAA
No WW
YES to DH
No Trades
No Clones
No Injuries
Any ballpark
Random alignment, within the respective leagues

See blacklist below:

* "You must use your nominated player" means the player you nominated must equal or exceed his real life IP/162 or PA/162. If the batter has too many PA, then as long as he plays in 162 games, that will suffice.

WHEN YOU PICK YOUR PLAYER, PLEASE CHOOSE WHICH GROUP YOU WANT TO PLAY IN, GROUP 1 or GROUP 2. If you are the second person to select a specific position for a hitter, you will automatically be in the opposite group (for outfield, you can choose which group, unless it's the 4th OF)
3/27/2020 6:49 PM (edited)
Sign Up List
Group 1 = Blue, Group 2 = Red

Owners List
1. schwarze (Al Orth, 1904)
2. slainte (Shad Barry, 1908)
3. redcped (Germany Schaefer, 1913)
4. calhoop (Denny Lyons, 1888)
5. Chisock (Joe Smith, 2019)
6. mllama54 (Wally Moon, 1964)
7. mpitt76 (Harry Steinfeldt, 1906)
8. pedrocerrano (Frank Smith, 1908)
9. cholatse (Travis Jackson, 1930)
10. 3dayrotation (Joel Peralta, 2015)
11. contrarian23 (Alvin Crowder, 1936)
12. njbigwig (Bill Dinneen, 1907)
13. bheid408 (Mike Tiernan, 1888)
14. joerat1 (Tito Fuentes, 1965)
15. thehuseman (Dan Brouthers, 1886)
16. fatguyrd (Wilson Ramos, 2016)
17. northof49 (Dave McNally, 1968)
18. barracuda3 (Guy Bush, 1936)
19. Jtpsops (Carlos Pena, 2014)
20. Landry19 (Don Mossi, 1954)
21. vilefileman (Cy Falkenburg, 1908)
22. danidon (Johnny Edwards, 1968)
23. Bradsher (Hank Bauer, 1956)
24. asdlfif (Darin Erstad, 2000)
4/1/2020 1:14 PM (edited)
Nominated Players List

Group 1
C - Johnny Edwards (14 seasons)
1B - Dan Brouthers (13 seasons)
2B - Tito Fuentes (12 seasons)
3B - Harry Steinfeldt (14 seasons)
SS - Travis Jackson (14 seasons)
OF - Wally Moon (12 seasons)
OF - Shad Barry (15 seasons)
P - Alvin Crowder (14 seasons)
P - Frank Smith (13 seasons)
P - Joe Smith (15 seasons)
P - Guy Bush (15 seasons)
P - Don Mossi (12 seasons)

Group 2
C - Wilson Ramos (12 seasons)
1B - Carlos Pena (14 seasons)
2B - Germany Schaefer (12 seasons)
3B - Denny Lyons (12 seasons)
OF - Mike Tiernan (13 seasons)
OF - Hank Bauer (14 seasons)
OF - Darin Erstad (14 seasons)
P - Joel Peralta (12 seasons)
P - Al Orth (15 seasons)
P - Bill Dinneen (13 seasons)
P - Dave McNally (13 seasons)
P - Cy Falkenburg (14 seasons)
3/31/2020 2:59 PM (edited)
Blacklist
These players can not be nominated (but they can be used as teammates)

C: Mickey Cochrane, Elston Howard, Charlie O'Brien, Victor Martinez, Jorge Posada, Ossee Schreckengost, Jason Varitek, Hal Wagner


1B: Dick Allen, Cap Anson, Dolph Camilli, Cecil Cooper, Frank Howard, Frank Thomas

2B: Max Bishop, Bobby Doerr, Tom Herr, Tony Lazzerri

3B: Frank Baker, Ron Cey, Chipper Jones, Tony Lazzeri, John McGraw, Pie Traynor

SS: Jeff Blauser, Lou Boudreau, Nomar Garciaparra, Hughie Jennings, Rico Petrocelli, Arky Vaughan, Maury Wills

OF: Moises Alou, Tony Armas, Babe Herman, Jesse Barfield, Vince Coleman, Larry Doby, Hugh Duffy, Billy Hamilton, Baby Doll Jacobson, Fielder Jones, Roger Maris, Ron Northey, Tony Oliva, Kirby Puckett, Tilly Walker, Ken Williams, Hack Wilson

P: Johnny Allen, Rod Beck, Chief Bender, Jim Brewer, Mordecai Brown, Norm Charlton, Jack Chesbro, Ed Cicotte, Watty Clark, John Denny, Joe Dobson, Don Drysdale, Frank Dwyer, Ryne Duren, Wes Ferrell, Chick Fraser, Joe Gibbon, Left Gomez, Zach Greinke, Clark Griffith, Ron Guidry, Harvey Haddix, Jim Hearn, Rick Helling, Joe Heving, Catfish Hunter, Brickyard Kennedy, Sandy Koufax, Max Lanier, Cliff Lee, Bob Locker, Juan Marichal, Ramon Martinez, Sam McDowell, Jeff Montgomery, Johnny Murphy, Denny Neagle, Gene Nelson, Phil Regan, Allie Reynolds, Mike Scott, Clyde Shoun, Bob Stanley, Jesse Tannehill, Adonis Terry, John Tudor, Ugueth Urbina, Rube Walberg, Ed Walsh

3/27/2020 3:40 PM (edited)
To determine number of player seasons, choose Pos = ALL, Min Games = 0, Check "Include Secondary Positions" and set Season Type = Full/Combined (i.e., Rickey Henderson has 29 seasons for purposes of this league).
3/27/2020 3:38 PM
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3/27/2020 3:38 PM
I will play. Need to figure out a nominee still and group TBD.
3/27/2020 3:53 PM
In, of course! Thanks for running this so soon after 16 x 16. Will figure out who to nominate after I read the rules
3/27/2020 4:16 PM
I'm in. Player TBD
3/27/2020 4:21 PM
I am in TBD.
3/27/2020 4:35 PM
in

tbd

3/27/2020 4:56 PM
I'm in. TBD
3/27/2020 5:09 PM
I'm in tbd
3/27/2020 5:12 PM
in TBD
3/27/2020 5:21 PM
I will play...been a while since I've done one of these.

Guess I'll choose NL since no one has chosen a league yet and it doesn't matter. I will nominate Alvin Crowder and reserve his 1936 season.
3/27/2020 5:22 PM
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