I took over Villanova, and my first shot at recruiting was the second session when I needed 5 players. I promised one guy 15 minutes, but he really is not going to be very good, and I am faced with the following dilemma - want to see what you guys think of this.

Honestly, this guy should only play a few minutes a game, if that. He is not very good, and I plan to cut him anyway. If I do not fulfill the 15 minutes he will hopefully leave, but how will that affect me. I am not planning to change jobs, so I am not worried about the reputation for that, but how will this affect my ability to recruit?

Am I better off playing him more and possibly losing a few more games, and potentially missing the NT? This would be the first time I would lose a player because of promises, so I just don't know how big of a deal it is.

Posted by chapelhillne on 5/26/2020 7:30:00 AM (view original):
I took over Villanova, and my first shot at recruiting was the second session when I needed 5 players. I promised one guy 15 minutes, but he really is not going to be very good, and I am faced with the following dilemma - want to see what you guys think of this.

Honestly, this guy should only play a few minutes a game, if that. He is not very good, and I plan to cut him anyway. If I do not fulfill the 15 minutes he will hopefully leave, but how will that affect me. I am not planning to change jobs, so I am not worried about the reputation for that, but how will this affect my ability to recruit?

Am I better off playing him more and possibly losing a few more games, and potentially missing the NT? This would be the first time I would lose a player because of promises, so I just don't know how big of a deal it is.

I've never broken an HD promise either. Hope someone that knows will respond. I'm curious as well. I'm starting my D1 career

I think you’re in much better shape to bench him and have him leave than lose games then still cut him, right?

I "think" so, but I think if he leaves because of broken promises, that is a worse reputation hit. But, is it worse for recruiting (which is all I am concerned about) than potentially going from B+ to B in prestige.

I'm doing this for the first time this season. I recruited Brian Walters and promised him 25 minutes and a start because I want to get the extra half recruiting opening money when he hopefully leaves and because I needed a 5th big (mostly uptempo press) and there were no senior transfers. I read before that breaking promises does not hurt you much (not noticeable) in recruiting. I could obviously be wrong though.

Yeah - I did not even think about the extra recruiting money. That also offsets some of the negative effects of the reputation hit.

I think one broken promise will hurt reputation at a level that will have a small effect on recruiting. Cant quantify, but lets say a 5% maybe 10% hit on the value of effort - so 20 home visits are worth 19 or 18.....based on limited experience. Keep in mind there is some - lesser - hit to cutting a player you recruited.

If you dont want him back, sit him down. you want him to leave, get the money in the upcoming cycle.

Unrelatedly, we need coaching options to get a player in any class to quit. I'm thinking dropdown with choices like

- inform player his minutes will be very limited
- instruct player not to remove his warmups at any time during games
- require player to do team laundry
- date player's girlfriend (mom?)
- others?

each costs some next cycle AP




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LOL - I like those options.