If a team's prestige changes fairly dramatically between RS1 and RS2, does that affect only RS2 recruiting actions? Or does the new prestige apply retroactively also to recruiting actions taken in RS1? Asking for a friend.

i always thought that RS2 still used your old prestige. That was always weird to me. i'll search for the thread that explained this.

Theoretically, the prestige change is supposed to go into effect for RS2 actions moving forward (not retroactively). A lot of folks suspect it doesn’t actually change at all, and both sessions are using the same prestige modifier.

CS says it changes for all actions in RS2

Posted by mullycj on 5/28/2020 1:51:00 PM (view original):
CS says it changes for all actions in RS2

any chance you have the ticket text? would be interesting to see.

Posted by mullycj on 5/28/2020 1:51:00 PM (view original):
CS says it changes for all actions in RS2

WIS claims it does, but there is a sizable segment of the HD community that is pretty convinced this isn't actually true.

Posted by gillispie1 on 5/29/2020 4:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by mullycj on 5/28/2020 1:51:00 PM (view original):
CS says it changes for all actions in RS2

any chance you have the ticket text? would be interesting to see.

In the second session, the new prestige would be in effect for recruiting.

Posted by cubcub113 on 5/29/2020 8:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by mullycj on 5/28/2020 1:51:00 PM (view original):
CS says it changes for all actions in RS2

WIS claims it does, but there is a sizable segment of the HD community that is pretty convinced this isn't actually true.

I agree with this.

I also believe that because if I'm neutral on wants success, and that's the only preference the recruit has, and I win a title and it jumps up to "very good", wouldn't it be fairly normal for the interest level to change immediately too?

Like let's say two D2s are going for this recruit. And both are C+. Neither spent money in RS1 because it's not ideal or necessary at that point (for this particular battle). So it's only AP+promises vs AP+promises with the two schools. If one jumps up to A+ and wins the title, and the other stays C+, I would expect the interest level to no longer be moderate vs moderate (on the screen). One would "possibly" be moved down to low. And of course I've never seen that happen. Which is why I'm making my argument here

Posted by topdogggbm on 5/30/2020 6:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cubcub113 on 5/29/2020 8:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by mullycj on 5/28/2020 1:51:00 PM (view original):
CS says it changes for all actions in RS2

WIS claims it does, but there is a sizable segment of the HD community that is pretty convinced this isn't actually true.

I agree with this.

I also believe that because if I'm neutral on wants success, and that's the only preference the recruit has, and I win a title and it jumps up to "very good", wouldn't it be fairly normal for the interest level to change immediately too?

Like let's say two D2s are going for this recruit. And both are C+. Neither spent money in RS1 because it's not ideal or necessary at that point (for this particular battle). So it's only AP+promises vs AP+promises with the two schools. If one jumps up to A+ and wins the title, and the other stays C+, I would expect the interest level to no longer be moderate vs moderate (on the screen). One would "possibly" be moved down to low. And of course I've never seen that happen. Which is why I'm making my argument here

i don't think so. actions are converted to effort after each cycle - nothing in this game has ever went back and adjusted already processed actions for recruiting effort purposes. at least as far as i know.

so basically - what you describe, i would be shocked if it happened, because it basically implied re-processing of past recruiting actions. that is totally different IMO than whether updated prestige (and perhaps preferences) are applied properly to future actions.

Posted by gillispie1 on 5/30/2020 7:05:00 PM (view original):

Posted by topdogggbm on 5/30/2020 6:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cubcub113 on 5/29/2020 8:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by mullycj on 5/28/2020 1:51:00 PM (view original):
CS says it changes for all actions in RS2

WIS claims it does, but there is a sizable segment of the HD community that is pretty convinced this isn't actually true.

I agree with this.

I also believe that because if I'm neutral on wants success, and that's the only preference the recruit has, and I win a title and it jumps up to "very good", wouldn't it be fairly normal for the interest level to change immediately too?

Like let's say two D2s are going for this recruit. And both are C+. Neither spent money in RS1 because it's not ideal or necessary at that point (for this particular battle). So it's only AP+promises vs AP+promises with the two schools. If one jumps up to A+ and wins the title, and the other stays C+, I would expect the interest level to no longer be moderate vs moderate (on the screen). One would "possibly" be moved down to low. And of course I've never seen that happen. Which is why I'm making my argument here

i don't think so. actions are converted to effort after each cycle - nothing in this game has ever went back and adjusted already processed actions for recruiting effort purposes. at least as far as i know.

so basically - what you describe, i would be shocked if it happened, because it basically implied re-processing of past recruiting actions. that is totally different IMO than whether updated prestige (and perhaps preferences) are applied properly to future actions.

Generally I agree. But you said "nothing in this game has ever went back and adjusted already processed actions for recruiting effort"..... that one clearly is false. Although context is important.

Often times if two teams are battling in RS1, and one of the coaches in that battle leaves his school, interest level changes many times. New coach reduction changes things a lot actually.

I know you didn't account for this situation in your response. So that's why I said context is important. But previous effort CAN be adjusted. That is just one example.