Perimeter and 3 PT. Topic

DIII school. Top Perimeter shooter is at 81 and still growing. Have his 3 PT. frequency at 0. When would be a good idea to bump him to +1? Or +2? Do folks adjust by rating or 3 pt %? Could use a little guide on perimeter ratings and 3 PT. settings. Thanks!
6/6/2020 10:15 AM (edited)
I would set him to +1 and not look back. At D3 you could likely even go +2 just monitor his fg% a few games after the switch to ensure he is hitting an acceptable clip.
6/6/2020 12:49 PM
perimeter scoring is primarily per, bh, and spd dependent, with the standard iq/fatigue (stamina) inputs.

someone who coaches d3 should probably contribute, but i'm thinking for your level of d3 guy, that guy with his 81 per and 60 spd and 51 bh, is good but not great. he looks like a guy who should at least be +1 but you could also do +2 depending. still - there's a couple considerations in the +/-.

one is how much you need 3pt shooting from that guy. looks at your team, i sort of feel like you'd have a decent amount? its only 3 games though, so its hard to tell from the stats - but right now you are taking 25% - which is low in general and you want that to be higher. i feel like in general in this game you want to be in the 30s, and if you are sort of like, working your way up, really the higher side more than the lower side. but you mostly want to try to play what is 'natural' for the team and then adjust up/down if you are out of a reasonable range. 25% is too low in general and too low for your amount of per. but like i said... 3 games - no idea what you are really doing.

another consideration is the player himself. not all players at 0 will shoot the same. if they have more per and less lp, not sure its quite that simple but more or less, they'll take more 3s. if they have more ath/lp, they'll take fewer. your guy is a pretty heavy per-based guy and he'll likely take a bunch of 3s given his setting. still, i wouldn't really consider anything below +1 for a guy like that. 3pt scoring is slightly over strong in this game, it used to be more, but it still is slightly. so you generally want to utilize your 3pt scoring pretty well. there is really very little 3pt% penalty for going from 0 to +2, like, very little. i think you perhaps get a little boost on a -1 or -2 because the player is like, more selective or whatever (the sim engine doesn't exactly work that way, but its not unreasonable to think of it as such).

in summary - at least go +1, and watch your team 3pt attempt % (3pta/fga) and make sure you are up there around 35% or so with this team. adjust up if needed. frankly, your team looks like one who should be on the higher end of that 30% range, 38%, maybe even 40%. its been a while since i played d3 (more than a decade) but the only real danger in going 40% and higher is that smart coaches in the NT will game plan against you. but you are a newer coach rebuilding, and that just isn't really a concern right now. those other three 70 per guys i think can all easily go +1 as well - i'd probably do +1 for all them and +2 for the 80 something guy, but it might end up being too much 3pt shooting (although really, im not sure there is such a thing when you are rebuilding a d3 school!).

good luck!
6/6/2020 1:09 PM
It all depends. Honestly, I leave it set throughout the season (evaluate and change maybe once or twice) but 3-pt frequency could change on a game-by-game basis by looking at match-up (zone vs. man vs. press), rating, and performance.
  • For match-up, I might adjust to a higher frequency if I'm expecting a 2-3 zone and might lower frequency if I'm expecting 3-2. M2M depends on who is guarding him.
  • For rating, I want strong ath / speed (in general and relative to the defender(s)), per, bh, stam, iq.
  • For performance, some guys just struggle despite being talented shooters. Over the course of a quarter season, if a strong perimeter scorer based on ratings is struggling to shoot, I'll drop them down in frequency (and probably touches). It could be due to a variety of factors (team around them, the offensive set you run, RNG).
I'd say if you feel like you're really unsure how to best adjust frequencies - look at their 3pt% and your SOS. If you have a strong SOS and they're shooting really well, considering going up +1. If you have a weak SOS and they're shooting really well, it might be because of the quality of opponents or it might be best to drop them down in touches or frequency. As you get more comfortable with it, you can begin breaking it down into game-by-game.
6/6/2020 1:14 PM
Thanks for all the help so far. Unleashed these guys a little bit more for today's PM game and did well. 24 of 61 field goals were threes. Shot .42% on those threes. Not a super tough opponent, but a good start, I think.
6/6/2020 2:31 PM
Posted by rls1 on 6/6/2020 2:31:00 PM (view original):
Thanks for all the help so far. Unleashed these guys a little bit more for today's PM game and did well. 24 of 61 field goals were threes. Shot .42% on those threes. Not a super tough opponent, but a good start, I think.
awesome! sounds like a good step in the right direction. the tactics that make the most sense when you are trying to get into the NT and stuff are decently different than when you are trying to win the NT, so really don't hesitate to milk your best scorers for all they are worth. its one of the best ways to punch above your weight.
6/6/2020 3:25 PM
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