The reality is that witnesses are notoriously unreliable, particularly when in reality most relevant witnesses were probably asleep. Beyond the question of whether the police announced themselves is the question of whether that makes any difference when they execute a warrant after midnight when the suspect can be reasonably expected to be asleep and not hear the announcement in any case. The boyfriend is setting up his story very clearly. He's claiming they were asleep in bed, awakened unexpectedly, and believed a home invasion was going on, so he took action to defend the home. Which would have probably been deemed legal. We'll never know if that's true or if he initially decided he didn't want to go quietly, but it's at least totally plausible. Why are police waking people up in their beds to serve a warrant? It's asking for trouble.
A lot of protesters are complaining that the lack of formal homicide charges is a miscarriage of "justice." They claim they want "justice." I'm sorry, but justice is not the same thing as revenge. What these people want is revenge. Based on the details we have now, this is all about the need for reform. Trying or convicting officers for murder for carrying out lawful orders is not justice. Making an example of individuals for following their training is not justice. Our police cannot safely do their job if they aren't allowed to shoot back when somebody starts shooting at them. Again, I don't have all the details. If they release the evidence from the grand jury trial maybe we will see that there were mitigating circumstances that would warrant a homicide trial. I can't rule it out. But what I can definitively say is that based on the small amount of public information, calling for the heads of the officers, and calling it "justice," is absolute nonsense.
Thank you for the logical, well thought out, and factual post.
9/25/2020 9:53 AM
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Posted by dahsdebater on 9/24/2020 3:56:00 PM (view original):
The reality is that witnesses are notoriously unreliable, particularly when in reality most relevant witnesses were probably asleep. Beyond the question of whether the police announced themselves is the question of whether that makes any difference when they execute a warrant after midnight when the suspect can be reasonably expected to be asleep and not hear the announcement in any case. The boyfriend is setting up his story very clearly. He's claiming they were asleep in bed, awakened unexpectedly, and believed a home invasion was going on, so he took action to defend the home. Which would have probably been deemed legal. We'll never know if that's true or if he initially decided he didn't want to go quietly, but it's at least totally plausible. Why are police waking people up in their beds to serve a warrant? It's asking for trouble.
A lot of protesters are complaining that the lack of formal homicide charges is a miscarriage of "justice." They claim they want "justice." I'm sorry, but justice is not the same thing as revenge. What these people want is revenge. Based on the details we have now, this is all about the need for reform. Trying or convicting officers for murder for carrying out lawful orders is not justice. Making an example of individuals for following their training is not justice. Our police cannot safely do their job if they aren't allowed to shoot back when somebody starts shooting at them. Again, I don't have all the details. If they release the evidence from the grand jury trial maybe we will see that there were mitigating circumstances that would warrant a homicide trial. I can't rule it out. But what I can definitively say is that based on the small amount of public information, calling for the heads of the officers, and calling it "justice," is absolute nonsense.
This post is evidence that your heart is full of hate. If you had any empathy (probably your latent racism prevents this) you would want revenge too. Say her name.
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