Thinking about reserving a team in one of the available worlds and was wondering what success / or lack of that anybody had when changing a teams IQ? How generally does the new team take to it?

Thanxs in advance

I do it every time I take over a team if I feel like playing different sets. I use 25/25 anyways, but if you're changing, definitely do that. I generally PLAY the sets that are already there, and PRACTICE the new sets for all of season one. When season two comes, same thing until post season. Then reevaluate. If Press defense is involved (either the new defense or the previous defense), definitely run a combo in that 2nd year in the post season. Both will be good enough to use at that point.

Last thing, I don't know about everyone else, but if you're changing sets, you almost have to completely forget about the "now". It doesn't matter how good/bad you do in your first couple seasons. Build the team based on how you want your future roster/class structure will look. That first season if you end up with 9 guards and 3 bigs (due to the roster left behind AND your focus of recruiting in your first season, for future preparation) so be it. You likely won't win big anyways early on. You kinda have to take one for the team to make your future brighter

mostly agree with dogg. folks go out there and absolutely trash their teams during IQ switches by playing the new set on day 1. its just not necessary. like dogg, i tend to play the old scheme for a full season, unless the team is just total garbage and i'm cutting most of the remaining players, resulting in like 2-4 guys with the old IQ. then i play the new IQ :) but i often see coaches out there with real teams - teams they've built! that they just flush down the drain a lot worse than needed.

there used to be a forum fact that playing the new offense got you IQ faster, but it never was true. there's no benefit to playing one IQ over the other except the immediate, who is going to win the game benefit. so just play what is best for your team along the way.

on the other hand, if you are running a quality program already, you can make an IQ switch gently, without great disruption. diminishing returns are significant on team practice after 10m - you get solidly more than half the value for 10m, compared to 20. i've done like a 10m old d 20m new d type deal for a season to buffer the current season when i knew i had 1 last season of (whatever) before i switched to (whatever), but still cared about the current season. sure, its a TAD behind 25m on the new d, but not by that much. you can also do that for 2 seasons. you can also go the other way - i've went from 25/25 to 20/20 and did 10m in the new set, something in that ballpark, a season early - or even 2 seasons early. that way by the time i get to the switching season, my new IQ is already competitive. dropping your main sets to 20/20 for a season to get a head start on the new IQ, you are barely going to notice that. but those 10m in the new set (or in the old set for the younger guys, on your last 1-2 seasons playing the old set) really make a huge difference.

i am all about walking in and ripping the guts out of a team, cutting 5 guys and keeping 2, changing the odd/def and taking an 0-27 if that is what it means. but you don't need to trash a solid team to change off/def. having 2 transition seasons (where you are not full time practicing the main set) is not too much of a delay but it makes the landing *so* much softer. i used to switch incessantly and one can fairly easily maintain an a+ prestige in any division during the switch.

The one thing worth consideration of actually switching game sets before the new IQ surpasses the old, IMO, is that you gain a preference advantage in recruiting for some recruits how I’ll want to play the set you’re switching to. That may or may not matter to you, depend on how you recruit, and who you’re targeting, but I know some coaches weigh preferences heavily; and regardless of how effective it is, playing the set gives you the advantage. For a recruit who wants to play the set *you intend to play moving forward* this is a small, but not insignificant thing to think about.

That’s not to say start playing it day one of the first season. But day one of the second? That’s generally when I start, unless there is still a large (more than a full grade) discrepancy for most players, for whatever reason.

Posted by shoe3 on 11/26/2020 5:26:00 PM (view original):
The one thing worth consideration of actually switching game sets before the new IQ surpasses the old, IMO, is that you gain a preference advantage in recruiting for some recruits how I’ll want to play the set you’re switching to. That may or may not matter to you, depend on how you recruit, and who you’re targeting, but I know some coaches weigh preferences heavily; and regardless of how effective it is, playing the set gives you the advantage. For a recruit who wants to play the set *you intend to play moving forward* this is a small, but not insignificant thing to think about.

That’s not to say start playing it day one of the first season. But day one of the second? That’s generally when I start, unless there is still a large (more than a full grade) discrepancy for most players, for whatever reason.

thanks shoe. i will have to update my IQ spiel for 3.0. sounds like

'there's no benefit to playing one IQ over the other except the immediate, who is going to win the game benefit.'

needs to be updated for preferences!

although i am generally skeptical of the notion that people can actually eek out a meaningful advantage manipulating preferences on players you might target in recruiting. a lot of people talk about that but i feel like that is a pretty tall order, and i suspect a lot of those folks are not diligently planning their players out to end of junior year before recruiting them, or at least after, which i suspect pays 100x dividends over the preferences thing. but, i definitely concede my original note on the subject to be technically incorrect!

Yea I remember thewiz talking about changing his sets regularly to meet a preference for a recruit. That's gotta be one of the most goofy things I've ever heard in HD. In all honesty, the two preference options for offense and defense sets are THE weakest preferences of all in my opinion. I wouldn't sabotage an entire season, to make one recruit happy on one weak preference. Why would anyone really do that? What if you lost the roll for that guy? Haha. You'd throw away an entire season (playing the wrong sets) AND also maybe throwing away next season because your IQs will now be worse than everyone else's going forward(since every other coach grows their IQs in their specific sets consistently each season).