(Guess)	Actual
Draft	Draft	BB	Name	Class	College	Rating	Outlook	Finish	Change
1	1	1	Floyd James	Sr.	Texas	964	Graduating	S16	0
2	2	2	Gregorio Yazzie	So.	Stanford	971	Likely going		0
3	3	3	Ernest Brunk	Sr.	Temple	943	Graduating	Runner Up	0
4	4	4	William Gregory	Jr.	North Carolina	945	Likely going	F4	0
5	5	5	Leon Newbern	So.	Duke	934	Likely going	S16	0
6	6	6	George Jozwiak	Jr.	Air Force	902	Likely going	S16	0
7	7	9	Claude Beazley	Jr.	Temple	922	Likely going	Runner Up	-2
8	8	7	Adam Waters	Jr.	Saint Louis	914	Likely going		1
10	9	10	James Olea	Sr.	Arizona	905	Graduating	S16	-1
9	10	8	Bobby Jackson	Sr.	Auburn	924	Graduating		2
17	11	19	Sidney Bilbo	Sr.	Texas	948	Graduating	S16	-8
12	12	16	Travis Bella	Jr.	Florida	841	Likely going	F4	-4
19	13	24	Robert Meredith	Sr.	Missouri	862	Graduating		-11
11	14	13	Michael Beatty	Sr.	Duke	909	Graduating	S16	1
13	15	22	Uang Mang	Jr.	St. Joseph's	921	Likely going		-7
14	16	15	Albert Breeden	So.	Texas	901	Likely going	S16	1
24	17	29	William Mueller	Sr.	Alabama	958	Graduating	S16	-12
15	18	18	Benjamin Dobbs	Jr.	Saint Louis	907	Likely going		0
20	19	25	Stanley Trout	Sr.	Kansas	932	Graduating	Champ	-6
26	20	37	Christopher Roark	Sr.	Oklahoma State	929	Graduating		-17
16	21	14	Douglas Moore	Jr.	Iowa State	920	Likely going		7
21	22	26	James Largent	Sr.	Arizona State	918	Graduating	S16	-4
22	23	33	James Colman	Jr.	Florida	926	On the fence	F4	-10
23	24	27	Trent Logsdon	Jr.	Washington	877	Likely going		-3
25	25	36	Frederick Kelley	So.	Florida	904	Likely staying	F4	-11
27	26	30	Andrew Blodgett	So.	Baylor	901	Likely staying	S16	-4
28	27	28	Irving Farrow	So.	Dayton	942	Likely staying		-1
33	28	41	John Durkin	Sr.	Illinois	889	Graduating	E8	-13
29	29	35	Richard Frye	Jr.	Arizona	896	On the fence	S16	-6
32	30	40	Ronald Case	Sr.	Southern Cal	929	Graduating	S16	-10
18	31	21	Steven Smithey	Sr.	Clemson	920	Graduating		10
30	32	32	Orlando Ortiz	Jr.	Oklahoma State	896	On the fence		0
37	33	55	Ralph Hall	Sr.	Kansas	850	Graduating	Champ	-22
36	34	51	Joseph Ellis	Sr.	Illinois	852	Graduating	E8	-17
31	35	50	Glen Chewning	Jr.	Texas	874	On the fence	S16	-15
34	36	46	David Gray	Sr.	Maryland	909	Graduating		-10
35	37	47	Carl Runyon	Sr.	Boston College	902	Graduating		-10
39	38	57	Thomas Boyd	Jr.	Gonzaga	863	On the fence	E8	-19
53	39	84	Jean Guthrie	Sr.	North Carolina	832	Graduating	F4	-45
38	40	56	Sean Alexander	Sr.	UCLA	861	Graduating		-16
45	41	65	Roger Carnevale	Sr.	Georgia	885	Graduating		-24
40	42	70	Jamie Woodard	Jr.	Florida	806	On the fence	F4	-28
41	43	62	Chad Fox	Jr.	Arizona	902	On the fence	S16	-19
44	44	64	Thomas Williamson	Sr.	Arizona	885	Graduating	S16	-20
46	45	72	Mack Evans	Sr.	North Carolina	821	Graduating	F4	-27
58	46	95	Michael Tyre	Sr.	Georgia	877	Graduating		-49
47	47	75	Ivan Kowalowski	Sr.	Penn	821	Graduating		-28
42	48	87	Donald Dunaway	Jr.	Florida	871	On the fence	F4	-39
43	49	74	Paul Rowland	Jr.	Rhode Island	875	On the fence		-25
49	50	93	Christopher Murphy	Jr.	Temple	863	On the fence	Runner Up	-43
50	51	82	James Peck	Jr.	Rhode Island	871	On the fence		-31
48	52	78	Scott Pecoraro	Sr.	Indiana	782	Graduating		-26
57	53	92	Ronald Swafford	Sr.	Arizona State	814	Graduating	S16	-39
54	54	88	Mauricio Costa	Sr.	Georgetown	835	Graduating		-34
51	55	101	Christopher Earl	Jr.	Kansas			Champ	-46
52	56	102	Ben Whitehead	Jr.	Temple			Runner Up	-46
59	57	99	Donald Persaud	Jr.	North Carolina	781	On the fence	F4	-42
56	58	90	Steven Weist	Sr.	Minnesota	871	Graduating		-32
55	59	89	Jonathan Pittard	Sr.	Kentucky	897	Graduating		-30
60	60	103	Jeff Wallace	Sr.	Maine		Graduating		-43

Without Graduating Seniors

(Guess)	Actual
Draft	Draft	BB	Name	Class	College	Rating	Outlook
2	2	2	Gregorio Yazzie	So.	Stanford	971	Likely going
4	4	4	William Gregory	Jr.	North Carolina	945	Likely going
5	5	5	Leon Newbern	So.	Duke	934	Likely going
6	6	6	George Jozwiak	Jr.	Air Force	902	Likely going
7	7	9	Claude Beazley	Jr.	Temple	922	Likely going
8	8	7	Adam Waters	Jr.	Saint Louis	914	Likely going
12	12	16	Travis Bella	Jr.	Florida	841	Likely going
13	15	22	Uang Mang	Jr.	St. Joseph's	921	Likely going
14	16	15	Albert Breeden	So.	Texas	901	Likely going
15	18	18	Benjamin Dobbs	Jr.	Saint Louis	907	Likely going
16	21	14	Douglas Moore	Jr.	Iowa State	920	Likely going
22	23	33	James Colman	Jr.	Florida	926	On the fence
23	24	27	Trent Logsdon	Jr.	Washington	877	Likely going
25	25	36	Frederick Kelley	So.	Florida	904	Likely staying
27	26	30	Andrew Blodgett	So.	Baylor	901	Likely staying
28	27	28	Irving Farrow	So.	Dayton	942	Likely staying
29	29	35	Richard Frye	Jr.	Arizona	896	On the fence
30	32	32	Orlando Ortiz	Jr.	Oklahoma State	896	On the fence
31	35	50	Glen Chewning	Jr.	Texas	874	On the fence
39	38	57	Thomas Boyd	Jr.	Gonzaga	863	On the fence
40	42	70	Jamie Woodard	Jr.	Florida	806	On the fence
41	43	62	Chad Fox	Jr.	Arizona	902	On the fence
42	48	87	Donald Dunaway	Jr.	Florida	871	On the fence
43	49	74	Paul Rowland	Jr.	Rhode Island	875	On the fence
49	50	93	Christopher Murphy	Jr.	Temple	863	On the fence
50	51	82	James Peck	Jr.	Rhode Island	871	On the fence
51	55	101	Christopher Earl	Jr.	Kansas
52	56	102	Ben Whitehead	Jr.	Temple
59	57	99	Donald Persaud	Jr.	North Carolina	781	On the fence

Conclusions :
1) The big board did not change from the conference tournament until the draft was announced.
2) If you look at the order of the players on the second post you will see that the NEWS is indeed the order of the draft. The differences in draft # (actual vs my guess) are only due to me guessing where the graduating seniors would fall.
3) The players from Florida all received a significant bump in positioning from the last BB despite only getting to the F4.

Am I misunderstanding you? If players are receiving a significant bump in positioning from the last big board, doesn’t that mean it has changed? Or are you just confirming that the last change is one we only see in the final draft order?

Confirming that we don't actually see that final big board (ie draft order) until the draft is announced.

Posted by mullycj on 12/3/2020 11:00:00 AM (view original):
Conclusions :
1) The big board did not change from the conference tournament until the draft was announced.
2) If you look at the order of the players on the second post you will see that the NEWS is indeed the order of the draft. The differences in draft # (actual vs my guess) are only due to me guessing where the graduating seniors would fall.
3) The players from Florida all received a significant bump in positioning from the last BB despite only getting to the F4.

1) it does change after the NT. benis showed it. i thought we were looking at phelan, i pulled the data there, it definitely changed from start of NT to after NT.

i am curious about the rest but will have to dig into that later.

It did not in Smith. I looked at it every day.
The Draft email came out today with season 120 data on it (we finished 121) so I sent in a ticket. They fixed the issue and when I went to recheck the BB, it had flipped over to season 122 data.

So there is a chance there was a glitch and the BB changed at 2:00 AM EST but I never saw it.