Recruiting Order of Operations Topic

Is there a best way to recruit certain items in an order that will maximize a recruit's interest? After Attention + Scholly, is it better to run a Campus Visit or Home Visit(s)? Does it matter if I offer Playing Time before or after a Campus Visit? Or is it all the same to recuit?
3/11/2021 7:58 AM
The only thing that really matters is, if the player has Wants to Play preference, that you offer your promised minutes as early as you can "for the situation". Because that will give you an additional good/very good preference. And the more good/very good you have, the more your AP are worth. So if you have 1000 AP with 4 very goods instead of 3 very goods, those will be worth more than if you did 999 AP with 3 very goods and then you offer your promises and 1 AP on the cycle the player signs.

I've also heard from a coach with a lot of knowledge in this game that you actually get a credit boost if you offer the ship AFTER (or "with") the promises. Rather than offering the ship before. That's one I never knew about. The only problem with that, is often times if you're first to get the ship in, some coaches will back off and look for other recruits instead. So waiting more cycles for everything to unlock first "could" backfire in the end.

As far as visits, it doesn't matter. It's the reason you see coaches bombing players late in a sneaky matter. Some coaches will sit at very low the entire time, while loading up hundreds of AP and then when signing cycles approach, and will drop the mother load of visits in a surprise manner to catch the leading coach off guard
3/11/2021 9:15 AM
Super helpful. Thanks, topdog!
3/11/2021 10:25 AM
Yeah, its all just actions and modifiers. Preferences and prestige modify your actions (scholarship, promises, visits, AP) for better or worse. To get the most out of your actions, you want the best preferences and prestige. That's why its sometimes smart to wait until the 2nd recruiting period (after the season has ended) to throw all your actions on a recruit that is signing late. This is if you expect a prestige increase after the NT ends. If you think your prestige will decrease, try to get all your actions sent in the 1st recruiting period.

*Disclaimer: I believe it was said that your new prestige affects recruiting period 2, but it remains a point of some contention.
3/11/2021 10:42 AM
“I've also heard from a coach with a lot of knowledge in this game that you actually get a credit boost if you offer the ship AFTER (or "with") the promises. Rather than offering the ship before. That's one I never knew about. The only problem with that, is often times if you're first to get the ship in, some coaches will back off and look for other recruits instead. So waiting more cycles for everything to unlock first "could" backfire in the end.”

I know lots of folks assume preferences affect the value of a scholarship, though I don’t think this has ever been confirmed by WIS. It’s important to note a couple things here I think. First of all, I think doggg knows this, but as with the first paragraph, even if we assume preferences do affect the value of scholarships, promises only matter (in that way) for players with the wants to play preference. So for other players, waiting has no direct impact on the value of effort.

The other thing is that the real positive impact is smaller than most people think, because they forget what they give up. First, they are losing at least one cycle, possibly multiple, of AP which would otherwise be accumulating that preference benefit, but isn’t, because they’re holding back. That’s because offering a scholarship is worth a lot of AP, and thus covers a lot of the initial AP investment required to make promises. And then strategically waiting even one cycle is sometimes the difference between having to battle for a guy, and never seeing a real battle materialize.

IMO, the best reason to wait on a scholarship offer is when tactically you want to come from behind on a guy that a front runner may end up skimping on. It’s a risk, because that front runner may be investing anyway, but if they don’t see anyone coming, they may get greedy and try to put their resources elsewhere. In those cases, holding off on scholarship until when you offer the promises and the visits all at once makes a lot of sense, especially if you are punching up on prestige.
3/11/2021 1:10 PM (edited)
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