16 x 16 v28 - The Best Draft (Full) Topic

16 Players, 16 Seasons, Version 28
Seasons: All
Salary Cap: $120 Million
DH = No
Division Alignment: Based on Order of Player Selection

Full Blacklist


This is a 16 team league. Each owner will nominate 1 player that has played 16 seasons* or more in their career. Once all 16 players are announced, a draft order will be determined and each owner will draft a different season of each player nominated to be on their team. So all 16 teams will own the same 16 players, but each with a different version of that player. The other 9 rosters spots will be filled with teammates of your 16 drafted players.

* Note that if a player played 15 years, but played for 2 different teams in one season, that counts as 16 (you'll understand why after reading the remaining rules ). To determine number of player seasons, choose Pos = ALL, Min Games = 0, Check "Include Secondary Positions" and set Season Type = Full/Combined. Both teams of a multi-team player can be drafted (but you must choose the partial or combined season).

For the 16 nominated player, we'll have nine hitters (including C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF) and 7 pitchers (no RP requirement). For players who played more than one position, there will be some leeway on which position he qualifies at (i.e., Alex Rodriguez can be 3b or ss). The ninth hitter can be any position.

Upon signup, post your nominated player (and the season you want to roster) in the forum. I will choose my player after at least five players have been selected. Once all 16 players are chosen, I'll post the round 1 draft order. We'll have a 15 round draft to select the other 15 seasons used for each player. Draft order for each round will be based on the cumulative salary going into that round (lowest salary drafts first).

Here's where it gets fun
The remaining 9 roster spots must be filled with teammates of your drafted players (including the player you nominated). They must be from the same season. No Twisting. Nominated players cannot be used as teammates. If you draft a player season with 2+ teams, you choose which version of that season you want, and can only take teammates from that team. (This is how a player who played 15 years, but had a multi-team season can be allowed. Or similarly, a player who played 14 years, w/ two multi-team seasons is allowed, etc.). There is no limit on number of teammates per drafted player. Many drafted players will not have any teammates rostered. Some will have two or more. Usually, your nominated player will have a few good teammate options.

Salary Cap = $120 million
Seasons: All
No AAA
No WW
No DH
No Trades
No Clones
No Injuries
No Live Play
Any stadium
Alignment - based on player selection order
(Even if you change players later, you are still locked in to your division)

See the blacklist below. The full blacklist includes any players taken in any previous 16x16 versions. These players may still be teammates, they just can't be nominated.
5/13/2021 12:16 PM
Owners List:

1. schwarze (Ken Holtzman)
2. cholatse (Woodie Fryman)
3. joerat1 (Mark Grace)
4. slainte (Zack Greinke)
5. calhoop (Edgar Renteria)
6. 3dayrotation (Alfonso Soriano)
7. mllama54 (Miguel Cabrera)
8. barracuda3 (Johnny Callison)
9. alice (Val Picinich)
10. njbigwig (Bobo Newsom)
11. pedrocerrano (Juan Samuel)
12. Jtpsops (Jaime Moyer)
13. Landry19 (Bill Skowron)
14. fatguyrd (Bobby Shantz)
15. happyours (Ryan Dempster)
16. ronthegenius (Lou Brock)

Wait List:
1. vilefileman
2.

Site-mail list:
3dayrotation; alice; barracuda3; calhoop; cholatse; fatguyrd; happyhours; joerat1; Jtpsops; Landry19; mllama54; njbigwig; pedrocerrano; ronthegenius; schwarze; slainte
5/17/2021 9:50 AM (edited)
Player Nominations:

C: Val Picinich (16 seasons) - 1918
1B: Mark Grace (16 seasons) - 1992
2B: Juan Samuel (19 seasons) - 1997
3B: Miguel Cabrera (18 seasons) - 2013
SS: Edgar Renteria (16 season) - 1996
OF: Lou Brock (19 seasons) - 1968
OF: Johnny Callison (16 seasons) - 1958
OF: Alfonso Soriano (16 seasons) - 2000
ANY: Bill Skowron (16 seasons) - 1963

P: Woodie Fryman (19 seasons) - 1980
P: Bobby Shantz (18 seasons) - 1962 (StL Combined)
P: Ryan Dempster (17 seasons) - 2012 (Cubs partial)
P: Ken Holtzman (16 seasons) - 1978 (Yankees)
P: Bobo Newsom (26 seasons) - 1948
P: Zack Greinke (18 seasons) - 2015
P: Jamie Moyer (27 seasons) - 1991
5/17/2021 6:37 PM (edited)
Division Alignment: Based on Order of Player Selection:

NL East
1. mllama54
2. cholatse
3. fatguyrd
4. calhoop

NL West
1. happyhours
2. alice
3. schwarze
4. joerat1

AL East
1. Landry19
2. njbigwig
3. slainte
4. pedrocerrano

AL West
1. ronthegenius
2. barracuda3
3. 3dayrotation
4. Jtpsops
5/14/2021 3:15 PM (edited)
Full Blacklist (290 players)
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Aaron, Hank Davis, Willie Hornsby, Rogers Miller, Stu Schang, Wally
Adams, Babe Dawson, Andre Hough, Charlie Millwood, Kevin Schilling, Curt
Alexander, Doyle Delahanty, Ed Hoyt, Waite Moore, Earl Schmidt, Mike
Alexander, Pete Derringer, Paul Hubbell, Carl Morgan, Joe Schoendienst, Red
Alomar, Roberto Dickey, Bill Hudlin, Willis Morgan, Mike Schofield, Dick
Ames, Red Dickson, Murry Hudson, Tim Morris, Jack Schulte, Frank
Andersen, Larry Drabowsky, Moe Isringhausen, Jason Moses, Wally Seaver, Tom
Anderson, Brady D*kes, Jimmy Jackson, Grant Mulholland, Terry Sheckard, Jimmy
Bailey, Bob Eckersley, Dennis Jackson, Mike Musial, Stan Sheffield, Gary
Baines, Harold Embree, Alan Jackson, Reggie Mussina, Mike Simmons, Al
Bancroft, Dave Evans, Darrell Jamieson, Charlie Myatt, Glenn Sisler, George
Banks, Ernie Faber, Red Jenkins, Fergie Nehf, Art Slaughter, Enos
Beltre, Adrian Fairly, Ron Jeter, Derek Nettles, Graig Smith, Lee
Bench, Johnny Fassero, Jeff John, Tommy Niekro, Phil Smith, Lonnie
Berra, Yogi Feller, Bob Johnson, Randy Offerman, Jose Smith, Ozzie
Biggio, Craig Fingers, Rollie Johnson, Walter Olerud, John Smoltz, John
Blair, Paul Finley, Chuck Jones, Chipper Orosco, Jesse Snider, Duke
Blue, Vida Fisher, Eddie Jones, Doug Ortiz, David Spahn, Warren
Boggs, Wade Fisk, Carlton Jones, Todd Osteen, Claude Speaker, Tris
Bonds, Barry Fitzsimmons, Freddie Judge, Joe Otis, Amos Staley, Gerry
Boone, Bob Flanagan, Mike Keeler, Willie Paciorek, Tom Stanton, Mike
Braun, Steve Floyd, Cliff Kell, George Pafko, Andy Stephens, Vern
Bresnahan, Roger Foli, Tim Kendall, Jason Palmer, Jim Sutcliffe, Rick
Brett, George Ford, Whitey Kent, Jeff Pena, Alejandro Sutton, Don
Brown, Kevin Forsch, Bob Kingman, Dave Pena, Tony Tanana, Frank
Brown, Tom Foster, George Knepper, Bob Pennock, Herb Tavarez, Julian
Buehrle, Mark Foxx, Jimmie Koosman, Jerry Perry, Gaylord Templeton, Garry
Bunning, Jim Franco, Julio Kuenn, Harvey Pettitte, Andy Thomas, Frank
Burba, Dave Fregosi, Jim Kuhel, Joe Phillips, Tony Tiant, Luis
Burgess, Smoky Friend, Bob Lamp, Dennis Pierce, Billy Timlin, Mike
Burks, Ellis Frisch, Frankie Loaiza, Esteban Pizarro, Juan Torre, Joe
Caminiti, Ken Galarraga, Andres Lofton, Kenny Plank, Eddie Torrez, Mike
Campaneris, Bert Garcia, Freddy Lolich, Mickey Plesac, Dan Trucks, Virgil
Carew, Rod Gehringer, Charlie Lopes, Davey Pollet, Howie Turner, Terry
Carlton, Steve Gibson, Bob Lowe, Derek Polonia, Luis Uhle, George
Carter, Gary Gonzalez, Luis Luque, Dolf Porter, Darrell Uribe, Juan
Cash, Norm Gooden, Dwight Lynn, Fred Powell, Jack Valenzuela, Fernando
Castillo, Luis Gordon, Tom Lyons, Ted Quinn, Jack Vance, Dazzy
Cavarretta, Phil Goslin, Goose Maddux, Greg Raines, Tim Vizquel, Omar
Cedeno, Cesar Gossage, Rich Mancuso, Gus Ramirez, Aramis Wagner, Honus
Chase, Hal Grant, Mudcat Marquard, Rube Ramirez, Manny Wakefield, Tim
Clark, Jack Griffey Jr., Ken Martinez, Edgar Randolph, Willie Wallach, Tim
Clark, Tony Grove, Lefty Martinez, Pedro Reardon, Jeff Wertz, Vic
Clarke, Fred Gumbert, Harry Masterson, Walt Reuschel, Rick Weyhing, Gus
Clemens, Roger Guthrie, Mark Mathews, Eddie Rhodes, Arthur Wheat, Zack
Collins, Eddie Gwynn, Tony Mathewson, Christy Ripken Jr., Cal White, Rondell
Collins, Jimmy Hadley, Bump Mays, Carl Rivera, Mariano Whitehill, Earl
Cooper, Wilbur Haines, Jesse Mazeroski, Bill Rixey, Eppa Wickman, Bob
Cramer, Doc Hall, Dick McCarver, Tim Roberts, Robin Wilhelm, Hoyt
Cronin, Joe Hartnett, Gabby McDaniel, Lindy Rodriguez, Alex Williams, Billy
Cross, Lave Hawkins, LaTroy McGee, Willie Rolen, Scott Williams, Ted
Dahlen, Bill Helton, Todd McGraw, Tug Roush, Edd Williams, Woody
Damon, Johnny Henderson, Dave McGriff, Fred Ruel, Muddy Witt, Bobby
Darwin, Danny Henderson, Rickey McMahon, Don Ruffing, Red Wright, Jamey
Davis, Eric Hernandez, Keith Medwick, Joe Ruth, Babe Wynn, Early
Davis, George Hershiser, Orel Mercker, Kent Ryan, Nolan Young, Cy
Davis, Harry Herzog, Buck Mesa, Jose Saberhagen, Bret Yount, Robin
Davis, Tommy Hoffman, Trevor Miller, Bob Santiago, Benito Zachary, Tom
5/13/2021 12:20 PM
There are 4 spots open. Sign up now.
5/13/2021 1:59 PM (edited)
I would like a spot.
5/13/2021 12:39 PM
Miguel Cabrera 2013 Detroit Tigers 3b
5/13/2021 2:31 PM (edited)
1980 Woodie Fryman
5/13/2021 2:26 PM
Bobby Shantz 1962 Cards (combined)
5/13/2021 3:05 PM
Zack Greinke

forgot the season - 2015
5/13/2021 4:43 PM (edited)
If you need someone, i will try. Just let me know please.
5/13/2021 4:15 PM
Posted by happyhours on 5/13/2021 4:15:00 PM (view original):
If you need someone, i will try. Just let me know please.
If i am good, here you go.

p Ryan Dempster 2012 Cubs part/season 104 innings $3,143,418
5/13/2021 4:26 PM
I see we are now nominating players

C Val Picinich ( 16 seasons ) Season TBD
5/13/2021 4:26 PM
Posted by mllama54 on 5/13/2021 2:31:00 PM (view original):
Miguel Cabrera 2013 Detroit Tigers 3b
NL East
5/13/2021 5:26 PM
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