Atlanta is claimed. New York Met franchise is still available.

This is an interesting progressive with lots of superstars and a premier franchise, the Atlanta franchise, is available. The rules are below. We are currently in the 2004 season and you can claim Atlanta or New York Mets for 2005. Both are currently leading their divisions in 2004 and all of the same core is back for both teams for several more season. I will provide a credit for one season as long as you commit to playing a minimum of five seasons.

Atlanta is built to win now. has upcoming rights to Jeff Francouer, Kelly Johnson and Brian McCann to go with a core of 2016 Freddie Freeman, Chipper Jones, Andruw Jones, Furcal, Derek Lee, 72 Phil Niekro, Smoltz, Lohse, Millwood, 2019 Julio Teheran among others. Full Roster below. The biggest near term decision will be who to cut.

New York is definitely built to win now with the best pitching in the league. They have upcoming rights to Heath Bell, Lastings Milledge, and Daniel Murphy to go with a core of 72 Seaver, 19 Degrom, 77 Matlack, 88 Ryan, 2003 Bartolo Colon, David Wright, Jose Reyes, Melvin Mora, Jayson Werth, and Mike Lowell among others. Full roster below with suggested cuts.

This is a very interesting league with lots of options and trading potential.

The general concept is the league started with the 1985 season as a franchise league with a twist. Each franchise could twist two players from 1985 plus two players from their 1970 franchise teams and two players from their 2000 franchise team. For example, the Yankees twisted Clemens, Phil Niekro, Derek Jeter, etc. All of the twists progress one year at a time with the rest of the players.

A highlight of the rules is below. The key rules that makes this league unique are the rules related to future/past/twist players. Send me a sitemail if you have any questions. The next twist is not until the 2010 season, so there is still some time until the next key decisions are made.

RULES

• Rights to rookies: The rights to rookie players belong to the team which he first has WIS eligibility. For example, Charlie Hayes is a rookie in WIS in 1989 and shows up under both Philadelphia and San Francisco. However, his first WIS eligibility season was with Philadelphia as his SF season was a combined season (he only had 5 at bats with SF then was was traded to Philadelphia).
• Future/Past/Twist players: These player progress one year at a time. Your players from the future will disappear when you reach their rookie season (If they come up with your team only). Example-say I'm the Braves, and I bring back Chipper, if he is still playing, when you run into his rookie year in 1995, you must re start him as a rookie and lose the other Chipper. But if you're NYY and bring back Clemens, it won't matter when he comes up as a rookie with Boston, because he won't bump into himself. In the Chipper example given above, the Braves could trade Chipper in 1994 to get some value prior to bumping into himself.
• Future/Past players in the 2010 and 2020 season: Before the 2010 season, you will go back to your team's 1965 season and grab 2 more guys, bring them back and go back to the 1990 season and grab 2 guys from there as well, and bring them all back to 2010. You can again start any of them at any point in time in their career and advance one year at a time. Before the 2020 season, you will be able to bring back two players from your team's rosters in 1980 and 1995. These players have the same limitation as before, so choose carefully.
• Clones: Clones are permitted in the league, but not on the same team. This is implied as noted above. As a point of clarification, you cannot trade to make clones or create a clone as a result of a trade. An example here is if the Yankees picked Arod in the 94 draft. They could not then twist him from their 2015 team and have a clone on the same team.

The Basics

No WW
DH For all teams
4 AAA players will be drafted and may be used and may also be keepers in future seasons. WIS generated AAA are not permitted to be used.
Full or partial player seasons may be used.

The franchises we draft rookies from are:
Milwaukee
KC
Toronto
Seattle
Montreal
San Diego
Colorado
Florida
Arizona
Tampa

Atlanta franchise (proposed keeper list, can change it as you like)
25 keepers, but you should probably figure out a cut to get a 1st round pick. Maybe Maddux since he's in his last season.

Keepers
C Javy Lopez
C Brian McCann
1b Freddie Freeman 2016
1b Derrek Lee
1b Adam Laroche
2b Mark Loretta
3b Chipper Jones
3b Pedro Feliz
SS Rafael Furcal
OF Dusty Baker 1977
OF Andruw Jones
OF Coco Crisp
OF JD Drew
OF Jeff Francouer
OF Kelly Johnson

P Kris Benson
P Greg Maddux 2008
P Jason Schmidt
P Bartolo Colon
P Kevin Millwood
P Phil Niekro 1972
P Julio Teheran 2018
P Russ Springer
P John Smoltz
P Kyle Lohse

IR

Cuts- Juan Cruz, Chris Snyder, Jose Hernandez, Odalis Perez Kenny Rogers, Kiko Calero

New York Mets Franchise (you decide who to cut and who to keep)
23 keepers (but you can adjust as you see fit)

C Michael Barrett
C Paul Lo Duca
1b Ben Broussard
1b Hee-Seop Choi
2b Mark Grudzielanek
3b David Wright
3b Melvin Mora
3b Mike Lowell
SS Jose Reyes
SS Marco Scutaro
SS Carlos Guillen
OF Jeremy Burnitz
OF Rickey Henderson (2000)
OF Jayson Werth
OF David Dellucci

P Tom Seaver (1972)
P Jacob DeGrom (2019)
P Jon Matlack (1977)
P Nolan Ryan (1988)
P Bartolo Colon (2003)
P Cory Lidle
P John Patterson
P Heath Bell

Cuts- Tony Womack, Steve Finley, Ricky Bottalico, Giovanni Carrara, Wilson Alvarez, Orber Moreno

Both teams are set to win now and into the near future. Plus in 2010, Atl can add Hank Aaron, Eddie Mathews, and Smoltz/Glavine or Dale Murphy. Mets can add Gooden, Cone, Spahn, and Yogi Berra. Great opportunity to jump into an established progressive with ready to win teams.

Getting the draft ready. Both teams appear headed to the playoffs this season and NY has easily the best record in the league and both teams have plenty left in the tank.

We'll come back to this league (we were there at the beginning with the Reds) and take the Braves.

Posted by crazyamos on 2/19/2023 4:21:00 PM (view original):
We'll come back to this league (we were there at the beginning with the Reds) and take the Braves.

Nice to have you back. You’re always welcome. I added you to the forum. Take a look at the proposed keepers I have up in the forum and let me know if you make any changes. The plan is to start off the clock tomorrow.

New York Met franchise still available.