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tecwrg
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I'd like my guaranteed playoff HFA retroactive to seasons 9 and 10 in Coop.
7/21/2009 6:16 PM
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7/22/2009 8:34 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By tecwrg on 7/21/2009
So, you've already got: (a) playing a lower seed, i.e. a lesser team in the playoffs; (b) having a more rested team if you're the #1 or #2 seed; and (c) the inherent HFA you have from playing more games on the field you should have built your team around.

And that's not enough for you?

7/22/2009 8:40 AM
iain
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You just want an advantage when it's time for small sample set events (i.e.: playoffs).

You may run along now, as this is the biggest joke you can possibly imagine.

How often, since the inception of the WC round, does the team with the best record actually win? Or even make it to the WS??

You are trying to use regular season trends to artificially incluence post-season, small sample set, games.

I call bullsh!t on you, sir. This isn't about "improving the game"... this is about "you winning post-season games".

THE TRUTH COMES OUT!!!!!!!
7/22/2009 9:21 AM
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What world were you the #1 seed that got knocked out by a WC qualifier, shuyler??
7/22/2009 9:22 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by iain on 7/22/2009You are trying to use regular season trends to artificially incluence post-season, small sample set, games.

iain wants all playoff games played on neutral fields.
7/22/2009 9:28 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By antonsirius on 7/22/2009
Quote: Originally posted by iain on 7/22/2009 You are trying to use regular season trends to artificially incluence post-season, small sample set, games.

iain wants all playoff games played on neutral fields


Have you taken a class in deductive reasoning?

If not, may I suggest you look into one?
7/22/2009 9:39 AM
antonsirius
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He seems to have a problem with what happens in the regular season 'incluencing' what happens in the postseason.

Clearly the solution is neutral field games.
7/22/2009 9:49 AM
MikeT23
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Yeah, take a class.

If you win a bunch of home games during the season, it stands to reason that you'll have an "advantage" at home. It seems that some want that advantage magnified. iain isn't one of those people.

7/22/2009 9:53 AM
iain
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Quote: Originally Posted By antonsirius on 7/22/2009
Quote: Originally posted by iain on 7/22/2009 You are trying to use regular season trends to artificially incluence post-season, small sample set, games.

iain wants all playoff games played on neutral fields
No, seriously... what are you smoking?

Artificially is the key word.

You win a lot of games in the regular season you are rewarded with a bye, playing poorer teams, and more home games at a stadium for which you (theorhetically) built your team.

Now you want to get a 10% boost for every home game??

Be reasonable.
7/22/2009 10:00 AM
iain
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Quote: Originally Posted By antonsirius on 7/22/2009He seems to have a problem with what happens in the regular season 'incluencing' what happens in the postseason.

Clearly the solution is neutral field games
Read the entire post.

Don't just cherry-pick quotes out of context.

As a said, the key word is: Artificially.
7/22/2009 10:00 AM
iain
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If you have a better team, you should win 4 in 7 tries.

If it is just a bad match-up... well... that happens in real life, too, no??
7/22/2009 10:01 AM
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i think, what some people are saying, is that - for example - the home team in the word series wins the 1st game an average of 62% of the time - which is quite higher than the overall WS average and the regular season home win percentage as well. if that's the case, it's quite likely that there are some extra influences outside of the dimensions of the park and the rosters that cause this.

there is a lot of data the suggest that there are more factors at play then just your dimensions and roster in RL HFA and it seems the it could be augmented in the World Series

i don't see why people are giving schulyer such grief - he's just being honest by saying we don't get the full HFA that exists in RL inside of HBD. when it comes to the playoffs he'd like to have the maximum chance of winning as compared to RL HFA in the post season.

if you COULD quantify it - wouldn't you as well?

i can understand the argument saying we can't figure out what all the elements are so we're leaving it as is - but if they could, i sure would want it. and even if they can't, i would still WANT it. doesn't mean i will get it and i can admit the implementation of it is a likely a bad idea - but when i have no problem admitting i would want it at least.
7/22/2009 10:17 AM
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I'd like to see how the stats break down as to HOW home field was determined for those games that comprise the 62% of "home team wins".

Because it wasn't always the winner of the All-Star game (arbitrary).

I think it was rotating between AL and NL, just taking turns, before that... but at some point it had to have been "better team = 4 home games".... and I'd be curious how the first game winners are broken down, depending on how the host of the 1st game was determined.
7/22/2009 10:24 AM
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