Quote: Originally Posted By arssanguinus on 1/17/2010

Quote: Originally posted by colonels19 on 1/17/2010 It needs to be stated because people on the outside of these arguments need to know that there's a natural bias in the on-goings thus instead of "colonels must be a real ******* because all these guys are ****** at him" it becomes "these guys are already anti-colonels, I want to see what colonels is saying myself so I can weigh in on what he has said, not how everyone has reacted".

So everyone who disagrees with you shoudl just shut up, so they can see your argument without disagreement tainting it?

I'm saying understand the person's argument and react to that, don't react to the reaction of everyone else that thinks X person is wrong, an idiot, an ***, etc.

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The name calling is unjustifiable and I'm sorry for having done that in the past. And yes everyone deserves the kind of discretion I purported, but it was only my thoughts/ideas on trial there, not yours...I'm not hating on what you guys are saying because I don't like you...I'm hating on your thoughts/ideas because A. I think many of them are ridiculous and B. I think my viewpoint is better almost all the time. I'm not a boob that comes in here and just throws out random statements just because I like to read what I type...these are things I've thought at length about.

You guys try to act like I'm some average, everyday simpleton, and that's just not the case.

ANd so we couldn't possibly think what you are saying is ridiculous and think our point of view is better? And its definitely not possible that we have thought about it? What makes you think youa re the center of the known universe?

Quote: Originally posted by arssanguinus on 1/17/2010

Quote: Originally posted by colonels19 on 1/17/2010I think its a fact that needs to be stated...it isn't coincidental that the same guys pop up every time I say something that's anti-WIS....you know that.

. . .I thought you didn't care? If you don't care, then why does it bneed to be said. . .

ANd COlonels. . those same guys pop up in other threads as well all the time. . Because they are guys who post allot!

Exactly, I think I post on 50-75% of posts that come up. Cause when I am playing WIS HD each fall/winter I am really into it. I love the college game and have extra spare time when going to school, or now that I graduated time while just looking for jobs.

The thing is that you need to open your mind though. You say your not bringing up conspiracies but you even admit that WIS will never change anything in your mind with the RNG and they won't admit it is wrong. Then when given the chance to help it change you just blow it off cause your not getting paid for it?

You need to pick. If you don't like the way it is right now then you go into the beta and let your voice be heard things will be changed. They want everyones input to make it better. If you think they wont listen at all then you are going after the conspiracy theory. Otherwise if you choose not to be part of the beta and say your thoughts, then I basically think you forfeit your right to criticize HD.

Some people are not in the beta and they can bring up things so we can pass it along in the beta, but you have access to the beta and your choosing not to participate. Its your own choice, WIS has given you the chance at the beta, now use it or be quite at this point.

Quote: Originally posted by colonels19 on 1/17/2010I think its a fact that needs to be stated...it isn't coincidental that the same guys pop up every time I say something that's anti-WIS....you know that. The thing is, I've given you guys more than you ever bargained for, and you simply thought "we'll put this guy in his place, its a one round fight, its over" and it isn't because I'm not as dumb as you guys initially thought, and you now realize that.

Please get off your high horse.

Thank you.

Quote: Originally Posted By arssanguinus on 1/17/2010ANd so we couldn't possibly think what you are saying is ridiculous and think our point of view is better? And its definitely not possible that we have thought about it? What makes you think youa re the center of the known universe?

others comments aren't affecting my responses to you. More often than not, I think your responses towards me are affecting what others think they know of the thread and my viewpoints. Like I said judge me on what I said, not how others have reacted to what I said.

Quote: Originally Posted By tmacfan12 on 1/17/2010

Quote: Originally posted by colonels19 on 1/17/2010
I think its a fact that needs to be stated...it isn't coincidental that the same guys pop up every time I say something that's anti-WIS....you know that.

The thing is, I've given you guys more than you ever bargained for, and you simply thought "we'll put this guy in his place, its a one round fight, its over" and it isn't because I'm not as dumb as you guys initially thought, and you now realize that.

Please get off your high horse.

Thank you.

Go eat your 10 pizzas ;)

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Arss, I know how you think and that's fine, I know and get that we disagree...what I'm saying here is that I don't want someone to disagree with me simply because that's what most people are doing here, without finding out what I said to start the entire argument/debate to begin with.

Quote: Originally posted by colonels19 on 1/17/2010I don't need others to fight my battles for me, thus I'm not going to parade people that agree with me and my viewpoints in and out of here just for your guys' pleasure...I just wanted to make the point that there are people on my side of the fence as well, even if you aren't.

Its not parading him around. Its not saying look at me I have people on my side even. I am simply asking if he is playing this game, and how much? If he has only played HD for 1-2 seasons or if he has never played HD than he obviously can't comment on the game at all. Even I am not the best to comment having only played 10 seasons in the last 2 years and 7 seasons way back when HD first sprouted up.

Simply put you can't comment on things you have never done or been involved with. Its like you commenting on Evansville University Cross Country practices if you never ran there you wouldn't know crap. Wouldn't matter if you ran at IU or some high school, you truly wouldn't know about UE practice.

Its a general opinion, you don't need to know how HD works to think/realize that sims should be less random than real life.

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Yeah, COlonels. In a game where EMOTIONS and the crowd aren't there, why should that have any effect?

If I ran a game, I most likely wouldn't use an HCA, if I did, it'd be very minimal. I think since WIS quantifies it in HD and it is quantified in numerous ways in real life that it is a solid piece to this game...I think its fair that it matters. There's nothing to gripe about there.