Quote: Originally Posted By damon_h1992 on 2/11/2009If its for recruits from here on out ok but if they change current freshman and sophs on rosters then toal bs.

My last 2 classes were recruited so they could start at sophmores and definitely jr.s...

While the change sounds good, I share this concern. It will be implemented immediately, but will it have the same effect on current roster players and recruits as it does on future classes?

Quote: Originally Posted By jebtucker on 2/11/2009
sigh.

as has been said many times, this is College Hoops. this is their potential for the four years that they are in school. sure that might not be 100% real life accurate, but it's NOT real life. it's a game, a college based game at that..

Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. My point is that improvement does not cease entirely if a player practices and works hard...at least in basic skills. Ask any coach, or teacher, or employer. No, this is not real life, yet I believe most of us here would enjoy a "game" that is as realsitic as possible.

and I don't disagree with that.

I said that there should be a "soft" cap followed by the "hard" cap... meaning the hard cap should be RARE to hit, and should only happen if a coach really pushes that category.

once the soft cap is hit, improvement should reduce dramatically, making the harder cap difficult to reach.

Quote: Originally Posted By itsjimmy on 2/11/2009Isn't that what work ethic was? So essentially, you just want the old system

just to clarify this was intended for bradshaw's suggestion of potential determining the speed at which the ratings increase.

Quote: Originally Posted By jebtucker on 2/11/2009

sigh.

as has been said many times, this is College Hoops. this is their potential for the four years that they are in school. sure that might not be 100% real life accurate, but it's NOT real life. it's a game, a college based game at that..

Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. My point is that improvement does not cease entirely if a player practices and works hard...at least in basic skills. Ask any coach, or teacher, or employer. No, this is not real life, yet I believe most of us here would enjoy a "game" that is as realsitic as possible.

and I don't disagree with that.

I said that there should be a "soft" cap followed by the "hard" cap... meaning the hard cap should be RARE to hit, and should only happen if a coach really pushes that category.

once the soft cap is hit, improvement should reduce dramatically, making the harder cap difficult to reach.



Exactly. I'm with you.

stephens cost me 2.5k

Quote: Originally posted by itsjimmy on 2/11/2009Isn't that what work ethic was? So essentially, you just want the old system.

No. Work ethic has to do with offseason improvement and rate of change... and theoretically has to do with in-game performance as well... but nobody believes that to be entirely true. Potential would have to do with total improvement, BUT would be parsed in terms of rate of change. Basically meaning WE and potential would both be factors in a player's improvement (kind like a multiplication sign).

This is REALLY unfair to those who have recruited on this basis. This change should be implemented ONLY for players actually recruited from this point forward -- OR there should be at least a full season in every league pass before the change is made.

Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 2/11/2009stephens cost me 2.5

I wouldn't say that too loud, you might get busted for stealing :P

bradshaw work ethic has no in game effect. its been stated. and yes work ethic was the old potential.

Quote: Originally posted by zhawks on 2/11/2009bradshaw work ethic has no in game effect. its been stated. and yes work ethic was the old potential.

Basically yes, it was... and now work ethic is virtually meaningless.

So basically they changed it back to the old system, except we still have random caps on players skill?

Quote: Originally Posted By bradshaw3001 on 2/11/2009

Quote: Originally posted by zhawks on 2/11/2009 bradshaw work ethic has no in game effect. its been stated. and yes work ethic was the old potential.

Basically yes, it was... and now work ethic is virtually meaningless

why don't you just say you want the old system?

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Quote: Originally Posted By cyoung187 on 2/11/2009So basically they changed it back to the old system, except we still have random caps on players skill

they haven't done anything yet... sounds like they didn't really know exactly what everybody wanted and they're going to hold a developer chat to get a sense of what needs to be done.

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