Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 1/04/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By metsmax on 1/04/2010
I dont think Z pursues insider advantages - he wrote a very helfpful guide for newbies - which answers lots of questions that folks post on the forums - and I have seen him post lots of helpful info that aids newbies move up the learning cruve

I think he fears a change in recruiting because it levels the playing field...I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he knows a loophole or two in the current WIS recruiting process that gives him an extra upper hand, in addition to his knowledge of the game. Something is fishy about how he's arguing, and that's what I'm bringing up.

I used a loophole in CRD until I and then after I quit, I told everyone about it, and the WIS CRD admin still told me that what I was doing didn't happen, even though I had exploited it season after season lol.

Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 1/04/2010

"I think he fears a change in recruiting because it levels the playing field...I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he knows a loophole or two in the current WIS recruiting process that gives him an extra upper hand, in addition to his knowledge of the game. Something is fishy about how he's arguing, and that's what I'm bringing up."

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metsmax comment

- this is truly unfair and underhanded debate - someone disagrees with you and therefore must be cheating? exploiting a loophole or unfair advantage

a simpler hypothesis would be that he has played this game a lot, learned it, learned from others and then from experience and is darn good at it

and he freely shares his views on the forums, writes guides, answers questions - and he usually is right

one can take that view or one can imagine a second shooter on the grassy knoll and a third shooter on the overpass and suggest dishonesty where there in fact is disagreement

one should go lightly in suggesting dishonesty lest the bow be turned in the opposite direction

Quote: Originally Posted By metsmax on 1/04/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 1/04/2010

"I think he fears a change in recruiting because it levels the playing field...I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he knows a loophole or two in the current WIS recruiting process that gives him an extra upper hand, in addition to his knowledge of the game. Something is fishy about how he's arguing, and that's what I'm bringing up."

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metsmax comment

- this is truly unfair and underhanded debate - someone disagrees with you and therefore must be cheating? exploiting a loophole or unfair advantage I just get a vibe from his posts that he "fears" recruiting competition to a degree and if recruiting were made more understandable and user friendly, then it would lessen his advantage...and I think that's weak.

a simpler hypothesis would be that he has played this game a lot, learned it, learned from others and then from experience and is darn good at it I'm sure that's a lot of it, but to thwart my suggestions by saying its those things (that I suggested) are already in the game, is untrue and I have a different take on things. He just has a very defensive guard whenever I say "Hey maybe we can change/improve XYZ".

and he freely shares his views on the forums, writes guides, answers questions - and he usually is right Ok, all I've really seen is a pompous *** who can't debate or argue his point for anything. The posts really show that...he skirts A LOT of what I say. He gets the benefit of the doubt though because he has a better rep than me on these boards, I get that.

one can take that view or one can imagine a second shooter on the grassy knoll and a third shooter on the overpass and suggest dishonesty where there in fact is disagreement I didn't say that he was cheating, I was suggesting that he might know of some loophole out there just as I did for CRD and never said anything. Its not impossible, and I think you should also consider what I know/think of zhawks, given our brief history as opposed to how you guys view him.

one should go lightly in suggesting dishonesty lest the bow be turned in the opposite direction People can claim whatever they like about me. Zhawks himself suggested that I would fudge my ranking numbers just to make myself look good...so I guess really turnabout is fair play.

Quote: Originally Posted By fd343ny on 1/04/2010
unconvincing - I'd urge you to play the game some more and get into a conference with z and compete with him before suggesting "fishy" behavior

but that's just my opinion

Quote: Originally Posted By thewizard2 on 1/04/2010I shake my head and can't for the life of me imagine why everyone is wasting their time debating with colonels. Personally, I would rather read a book, but that's just me

Quote: Originally Posted By coach_billyg on 1/04/2010

you said in another post i am blinding by hatred of you, and therefore don't see the merit of your points. honestly, i don't hate you, if you would stop acting like an idiot i would be happy to have a rational discussion with you. but, i am definitely not a fan of posts like this. you would do well to at the very least proof read for tone. Zhawks doesn't deserve and hasn't earned my respect. He's said many bizarre things to me (370+ seasons is a small sample size...suggested that a 690 could lose 0 games and that a 780 could win 0) and he doesn't want to debate...he skirts a lot of my posts...(read earlier in this thread where he piece-mealed my posts)...he just likes to play the, "If you don't agree with me, you're wrong" game and that I "don't understand HD"...though I've conceded MULTIPLE times that he's a better player than I am in every aspect of the game. He spins my arguments, puts words in my mouth, and offers nothing from a debate standpoint that is remotely stimulating...being told you're wrong without merit gets old after a while. Zhawks behavior has been worse than mine here, but he gets a free pass because he's everyone's friend and created some WIS guidelines...that's fine with me....if all you guys want to do is argue with me then that's what we'll do....if you want to speak civilly that's what we'll do.

and comments like, you get a vibe zhawks fears recruiting competition. are you serious??? Yes i dont understand how it can not be totally obvious to you that comments like that cannot help you in any way. I don't care if they help me or not...that's my gut feeling...he's getting super defensive over WIS recruiting eventhough I made different suggestions than what are currently in the place for the game, to which he replied "those are already in the game"...yes....but not how I'm suggesting them. That's poor reading comprehension and closed-mindedness right there. you are barking up the wrong tree. i wish you would take it on faith how ridiculous it sounds. I don't put anything past zhawks...

Quote: Originally posted by a_in_the_b on 1/04/2010
Oh go dry up. Your self - righteous martyr act is pathetic. If you want anyone to take you seriously you have to take off the tinfoil hat for a second.

YOu also have to stop trying ad homeneim attacks on anyone who 'dares' to say anything you don't like.

Quote: Originally Posted By a_in_the_b on 1/04/2010
Oh go dry up. Your self - righteous martyr act is pathetic. If you want anyone to take you seriously you have to take off the tinfoil hat for a second.

YOu also have to stop trying ad homeneim God Bless you...could you refresh my memory oh tilter of windmills? attacks on anyone who 'dares' to say anything you don't like.