Tea Party vs Occupiers Topic

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Posted by MikeT23 on 10/21/2011 4:22:00 PM (view original):
The point is that we(as a people) can get by on a lot less.    But we have to be "comfortable" so we spend way more than we HAVE to.   My beer, which is not a necessity, bill is almost the same as my grocery bill. 

We don't need cable, HDTV, mobile phones, two cars, steak dinners, etc, etc, to live, we just want those things.    $500 a month with living space taken care of, is plenty to live on. 
And it doesn't help having all the marketing going on from companies CREATING NEEDS for people (which is the right thing for companies to do to sell product). We just had a baby and I can attest that we don't NEED baby monitors, disposible diapers, state of the art strollers where a baby can safely land on the moon etc..... although when I tell my wife that its a different story. Need and want has gone by the wayside in the USA. I think that's what Mike is referring to.... he doesn't NEED the best of everything to get by. I agree.
10/21/2011 6:55 PM
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I need whatever I can afford. It is as simple as that. If I wanted to "just get by" I would not have worked as hard as I did to get as far as I did. I find it hard to understand why I need to justify that to a right winger of all people!
10/21/2011 7:57 PM
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You don't need to justify it to anybody but yourself.

But if the **** hits the fan and you're out of a job and facing dwindling savings and you're retirement fund evaporating away, you might have second thoughts about past spending which may not have been so wise. 

10/21/2011 8:19 PM
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What would happen in my culture is that someone would have a contract put out on them.
10/21/2011 8:33 PM
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Oh, and nothing in the past should ever be regretted. What is done is done.
10/21/2011 8:34 PM
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Live for today is fine.   I'm good with that.  Just understand what "today" is.    If you can afford a steak and champagne on a 200' yacht, go for it.    If you can't afford a bowl of rice, maybe you fucked up yesterday.  Just don't ask me to pay for either of them. 
10/21/2011 8:41 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 10/21/2011 4:22:00 PM (view original):
The point is that we(as a people) can get by on a lot less.    But we have to be "comfortable" so we spend way more than we HAVE to.   My beer, which is not a necessity, bill is almost the same as my grocery bill. 

We don't need cable, HDTV, mobile phones, two cars, steak dinners, etc, etc, to live, we just want those things.    $500 a month with living space taken care of, is plenty to live on. 
It sounds good but you are ignoring heat and electric bills, garbage bill, taxes, insurance. How about a car. Please don't tell me anymore about how you are going to eat chicken and rice for 10 years because you are full of sheetz.
10/21/2011 11:35 PM
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Posted by deathinahole on 10/21/2011 11:48:00 PM (view original):
I'm full on serious when I say this world needs a good 4-5 year depression.

Just about anyone that lived through the 30's seemed to have more financial common sense and a grip on priorities than the generation of today.
No argument here.
10/21/2011 11:50 PM
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Posted by moosep on 10/21/2011 11:35:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 10/21/2011 4:22:00 PM (view original):
The point is that we(as a people) can get by on a lot less.    But we have to be "comfortable" so we spend way more than we HAVE to.   My beer, which is not a necessity, bill is almost the same as my grocery bill. 

We don't need cable, HDTV, mobile phones, two cars, steak dinners, etc, etc, to live, we just want those things.    $500 a month with living space taken care of, is plenty to live on. 
It sounds good but you are ignoring heat and electric bills, garbage bill, taxes, insurance. How about a car. Please don't tell me anymore about how you are going to eat chicken and rice for 10 years because you are full of sheetz.
No, I'm not.  I have a pretty good handle on what my bills are.    Removing my $200 cable bill and $70 phone bill from the equation(which is what I'd do if I had to live on $500 a month) puts my household expenses(including taxes/insurance) under $500 a month without a house payment.   I'm not factoring in a car because I don't need one.   There's a grocery store about 3 miles from me.    I could get everything I need by walking/bike.

As far as eating chicken and rice for 10 years, I think it beats starving or eating dirt.    If you're not some liberal tree-hugger who believes everyone NEEDS steak dinners, cable TV, a mobile phone and a nice car, you do what you have to do.  I have squirrels in my back yard and fish in a pond.    If I was hungry, there would be less of both. 
10/22/2011 6:53 AM
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I will be damned if I know what a treehugger has to do with steak dinners, cable tv mobile phones and a nice car. You have been listening too much to those jerks on the radio.If you are going to burn wood and have a pond on your land to fish then you have to pay school taxes and county taxes on it which you seem to be ignoring. Are you reading by the fire in the fireplace or are you having electricity?
10/22/2011 10:14 AM
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I'd bet Miket23 is fat,out of shape, and pampers the hell out of his American ***.

10/22/2011 11:37 AM
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Posted by moosep on 10/22/2011 10:14:00 AM (view original):
I will be damned if I know what a treehugger has to do with steak dinners, cable tv mobile phones and a nice car. You have been listening too much to those jerks on the radio.If you are going to burn wood and have a pond on your land to fish then you have to pay school taxes and county taxes on it which you seem to be ignoring. Are you reading by the fire in the fireplace or are you having electricity?
Those taxes are included in my home tax bill.   I have electricity and it fits within $500 per month budget.   I'm pretty sure every city has water.  And, if so, I'm pretty sure they have fish. 

Liberal tree-huggers set the poverty level for assistance.   A lot of people don't need assistance.  They need to learn to live within their means.
10/22/2011 12:14 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 10/22/2011 12:14:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moosep on 10/22/2011 10:14:00 AM (view original):
I will be damned if I know what a treehugger has to do with steak dinners, cable tv mobile phones and a nice car. You have been listening too much to those jerks on the radio.If you are going to burn wood and have a pond on your land to fish then you have to pay school taxes and county taxes on it which you seem to be ignoring. Are you reading by the fire in the fireplace or are you having electricity?
Those taxes are included in my home tax bill.   I have electricity and it fits within $500 per month budget.   I'm pretty sure every city has water.  And, if so, I'm pretty sure they have fish. 

Liberal tree-huggers set the poverty level for assistance.   A lot of people don't need assistance.  They need to learn to live within their means.
The impoverished need ipads.
10/22/2011 12:17 PM
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Tree-huggers and public assistance? Don't get it! Do you have some timber being clear and someone is complaining you are not leaving enough trees to stop erosion? You seem to be using the phrase even when it doesn't apply!
10/22/2011 2:41 PM
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